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Turing aside, the world simply treated gay people horribly altogether.
Gay men were victims of the holocaust much like many other groups but Germany wouldn't recognize this until 4 decades later in the 1980s. We know what the British did to Turing but the U.S. acted similarly due to the Lavender Scare which compared gay people to communists and enacted its own witch hunts for them.
I remember reading somewhere that upon liberation from concentration camps, many gay individuals were simply transferred to prisons from their home country for the crime of being gay. The Nazis were terrifyingly effective in branding exactly what kind of "undesirable" you were:
Image source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camp_badge
im sorry asocial? What the fuck does this mean in the context of the nazis? Were people who didn't actively socialize considered a threat somehow?
Asocial was a very broad term - anyone they thought was not sufficiently contributing to society, essentially.
ok so basically "slackers" were considered to be asocial and then stuffed into the gulags, fascinating.
yes, Remember Nazi rhetoric didn't hate the Polish, the Jewish, the Communist etc... without having an easily agreed upon base of reasons as to why you should hate them. why do you think people have called Republican rhetoric genocidal? because they are further along to the "justifying the camps" than many people realize, they know the Nazis did bad things, but very few people know what led up to and allowed the Nazis to do those bad things.
yeah, current republican sentiment is problematic. It's an interesting and really hard problem to deal with, for multiple reasons. Because on one hand it's a frogs in a boiling pot problem, but on the other it's also really hard to do anything about because they just reverse anything you throw at them, and pretend you're the one being the nazi, not them.
Also an old Nazi tactic.
"Mean old Weimar Republic, muzzling our holsum leader, don't they believe in freeze peach???"
And the Weimar Republic gave in, like the spineless fucks they were.
can we just start referring to this shit as "hitlerisms" to start making a more dramatic point? Or would that be bad?
A more general "Fascist shite" might be more appropriate. Hitlerisms sounds like a verbal tic of Hitler or something, lol
maybe, but i think a hitlerism would be a very funny and silly thing to point out, though maybe that in it of itself is problematic lol.