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[–] Goodie 160 points 2 months ago (65 children)

I think a law stating you can't borrow against unrealized gains would be sensible.

You can keep your unrealized gains forever, live of your dividends for all i care, and pay no tax. But realizing them, either through selling or borrowing against, triggers a taxation.

[–] Maggoty 1 points 2 months ago (6 children)

How are you going to enforce that? The Bank can cite whatever they want for giving the loan.

If we just tax them then it's easily enforceable and it's done.

[–] Goodie 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It can just be flipped on it's head;

How are you going to enforce taxing on value, the person can just cite whatever value they want for the asset.

[–] Maggoty 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No they actually can't. In stocks the price is publicly listed by a third party. In real estate an assessor gets involved. For commodities like cars they have to be unique or nearly so before there isn't a third party listing it's value.

For edge cases, especially large real estate, we could always make a second law, one that says the government can buy your building at the value you gave the IRS if it's significantly below market rate on dollars per square foot for it's type (office, industrial, residential, etc), or that it's represented as a higher value in investment reports or bank loans. We'll frame it as a bail out, helping them offload toxic assets. Then the government sells the building on the open market. That way when someone like Trump decides his buildings are suddenly worth less than all of the surrounding buildings we can keep him from going bankrupt again.

[–] Goodie 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-fraud-ruling-property-valuation-michael-cohen

A former sitting president has been indicted, if not convicted of this very crime. You'll have to excuse me if I don't believe it's that uncommon.

[–] Maggoty 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It took literal decades and the magnifying glass of running for public office. I'm not comfortable with that being the standard.

[–] Goodie 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is the standard. Now. Currently.

If you don't like it, might I suggest a guillotine or several. Worked for the French.

[–] Maggoty 2 points 2 months ago

Or, we could pass a law changing that standard.

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