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I had a low expectations from Mozilla, but holy shit. (www.mozilla.org)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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At that stage they are not hiding that they are a ads and AI company anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Everyone: Mozilla should find new revenue streams in order to become truly independent.

Mozilla: We're open to suggestions

Everyone: …

Mozilla: We're going to explore doing so in an organic method across our products using the methodology that big tech is generating money, but with a Mozilla spin.

Everyone: How dare you!

[–] cm0002 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We're going to explore doing so in an organic method across our products using the methodology that big tech is generating money, but with a Mozilla spin.

Hm yes, the "we're built different so we won't be affected by enshittification" option

that support advertising in clients (Firefox, MDN, Pocket, Fakespot, etc)

Ah, the "Mozilla Spin" is to put fucking ads in Firefox, got it.

[+] [email protected] -16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's already ads in Firefox and every other major browser.

[–] cm0002 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Not in the browser. From web pages sure, but it sure as hell sounds like they're going to shove ads in the browser like MS has been testing in the start menu. Once that starts who knows, maybe they'll have their own little Chrome manifest v3 rollout that breaks adblocking for webpages too.

Based on this and the past year of "mistakes" it's sure looking more and more like they're trying to push ahead on the enshittification path.

If they're so desperate to find other sources of income why does the Mozilla CEO not take a pay cut out of that 10 million/year

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm all for shitting on bad decisions by mozilla but pretty sure there has been zero mention of ads in the actual browser itself. Do you have proof?

Edit: edited because my original wording was a bit aggressive.

[–] cm0002 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

We’re growing the Mozilla Ads product team, passionate about display advertising in Mozilla products that is privacy-respecting and values-aligned. You will be one of the lead engineers that will craft, build, and be responsible for the core systems, both front-end and back-end, that support advertising in clients (Firefox, MDN, Pocket, Fakespot, etc). You and your team will be the domain guides when it comes to advertising, providing direction and shepherding to various product teams across Mozilla.

Ofc some reading between the lines is needed, they're not going to just blatantly say something they know will be incredibly unpopular this early.

And like I said, its just another on a pile of mounting evidence of a year of bad decisions

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

It's definitely concerning the way it's going. I'll say that much. I really hope that doesn't happen.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

predetermined bookmarks and tials on the startpage count as ads. There is even a tial showing different websites as ads. It's easy to remove, but there are already ads as sabeW4K3 mentioned

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

They're not going to serve ads in page outside of sponsored tiles and things of that ilk and there's been no suggestion otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

If Mozilla is engaging in unethical behavior that publicly violates its own alleged principles, people can point it out.

But sure, here are a few suggestions:

Continue finding white label services they can sell, such as Mozilla VPN
Create a donation system using GNU Taler that you can put towards websites you visit, like brave Rewards already has.
Allow users to give donations explicitly to Firefox development instead of Mozilla itself.
End the $65 million in donations towards AI.
Follow typical market forces and lower the CEO pay instead of raising it by nearly $2 million.