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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (71 children)

As i always say its not the communists its the tankies. Communists want a different economic system but still agree on the equality of people and they can either want an autocratic or democratic system(from what i see simple communists usually want democracy). Then theres the tankies. They support full autocratic governments that are usually not even communitst like china and want a violent revolution. Often times they are even transphobic. Its the one group of people that annoys me more than nazis because they are basically nazis but on my side of the political compass. Also im socdem and have to explain to everyone that no that is not communism but tbf most people dont like communism because they teach its bad and not because they got to the conclusion with their own knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (13 children)

As i always say its not the communists its the tankies. Communists want a different economic system but still agree on the equality of people and they can either want an autocratic or democratic system(from what i see simple communists usually want democracy). Then theres the tankies. They support full autocratic governments that are usually not even communitst like china and want a violent revolution.

What do you mean by an "autocratic system?" All Communists support democratic systems, the idea of there being some especially evil Communists that don't want democratic systems is unfounded. Additionally, all Communists want revolution, reformism is anti-Marxist to the core. The State and Revolution is around 25% Marx and Engels quotes and goes over why Marxists believe Revolution is the only path to Communism, and goes over how to make a far more democratic government.

Often times they are even transphobic.

Who? The far-right American Communist Party are not Communists and reject Marxism. The 3 most Communist-friendly Lemmy instances are the most militantly defensive of trans individuals on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why do you think the ACP is right wing and reject Marxism? Literally they mention being Marxist-Leninist multiple times on the website you link. Nothing I've ever heard them espouse has been right wing, but I'd love if you could point me to some analysis that explains how you arrived at that conclusion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

The ACP is a group of PatSocs, also known as MAGA Communism. They advocate for Patriotism and Nationalism within the Imperial Core, as opposed to an emphasis on Internationalism, which means it is opportunist and revisionist at minimum and plays into the hands of Imperialists. Ie, PatSocs side with the Imperialist Capitalists of their own country and advocate for central planning and other "Marxist" ideas.

They are similar to the German Nazi Party but with more lip service to Marxism.

This is not to be confused with the Communist Party of the USA, which is Reformist and thus Revisionist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks for elaborating.

[–] NoMadMan 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sounds a lot like the USSR, were they not PatSocs?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Nope. The USSR obviously wasn't in the Imperial core.

[–] NoMadMan -2 points 2 weeks ago

Similarly, when I learned the error of my ways and decide to join the American socialist party, I learned that they were just a bunch of trans-fascists using the name and popularity of Socialism. This is a new world folks, nothing is as it appears.

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