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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic and constructive discussion from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

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1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith discussion is enforced here.

Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism

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as well as condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavour.

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The only dangerous minority is the rich.

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We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

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Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.

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Nurses in London strike over hours, need for staffing (themilitant.com)
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[–] UniversalMonk -5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I have never seen another user “post articles [they] find interesting”, get a constant stream of hate all day, and just pretend that isn’t happening.

When have I ever pretended that it isn't happening? I know it's happening. I just choose to not let it affect me. At all.

Humans want to be accepted.

I'm accepted by plenty. Lemmy haters and downvoters have zero impact on my real life.

Yeah buddy, you’re so right.

Thank you! Keep trying to sow doubt and confusion, friend. It's not working. We can see what you're doing.

Do you feel good that you downvoted an article about overworked nurses demanding better working conditions?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know it’s happening. I just choose to not let it affect me. At all.

That's the bizarre part.

Lemmy haters and downvoters have zero impact on my real life.

But spending hours a day doing what you do here absolutely does. A normal person would only ever spend the time if they didn't get constant hate in exchange.

So you've tried to slither out of it but it didn't work. You explained nothing whatsoever about your motives. Which require explanation unless your goal is for people to assume they are bad.

[–] UniversalMonk -5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That’s the bizarre part.

No, it's bizarre that you seem to care about upvotes and downvotes so much that you think it's strange that others do not. You need to get out more, friend.

But spending hours a day doing what you do here absolutely does.

Hours?! How long do you think it takes to post an article? Have you ever posted one? dude, it's cut and paste a title. Then the link. Takes 5 seconds. And replying to trolls takes even less time.

I mean, maybe YOU spend hours doing that kind of stuff, but not me.

You explained nothing whatsoever about your motives. Which require explanation unless your goal is for people to assume they are bad.

I don't owe you any explanation at all. I say what I feel like saying, when I feel like saying it. I am under no obligation to do anything for you. The duopoly really has you under their thumb I guess. Not me. I know what freedom is.

Oh and by the way, I posted another couple of articles, so update the stats you keep about me. lmao

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Lol way to dodge again. You talk about downvotes as if the hundreds of negative comments are meaningless. Neither are, for a mentally healthy person, hate is hate.

You have spent a fuck load of time, stop pretending. Dozens of comments an hour, many posts a day. No one is fooled.

I just plainly said you only owe an explanation if you want your motivation to make sense. Apparently your wish is for everyone to assume you're up to something sinister.

update the stats you keep about me

This is going to shock you, but copying and pasting text from a web page is not the same thing as keeping a diary about disingenuous terminally online trolls who suddenly post even more after the presidential debate.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My totally creepy diary on you is located here: https://lemmy.ml/u/[email protected]

198 Posts

1.24K Comments

Joined 1 month

If it took only 10 seconds to post each time, and 20 seconds to make a comment, that means you have spent:

(198 * 10) + (1240 * 20) = 26780 seconds

Or, 7.44 hours, in one month. That's almost 5% the amount of time people spend working full time. Almost a full work day. And these are extremely generous estimates that assume you are very fast. I have no doubt you have spent minutes responding to some of the comments calling you out.

To calculate the number of times you submitted content per waking hour:

(198 + 1240) / (16 * 30) = 3

Or once every 20 minutes on average, assuming you sleep. But again, yeah it fully makes sense that you would work nearly an entire work day per month, getting nothing but bile in return, because you "find articles interesting". Almost every single one promoting third party candidates. Yep you've convinced me. Totally and completely not sus, at all. Not even a little bit.