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Looking for a new backpack. I don't like having 40 pockets to stash stuff in. I would prefer a frame but not having one isn't a deal breaker. Have lower back issues so it needs to sit appropriately.

MOLLE, ALICE, ILBE, or FILBE? Something else?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What kind of gear are you carrying? The size and construction of your pack will vary significantly depending on that.

In general, I think the military packs you mentioned are overkill for recreational hiking and backpacking. You will be carrying a lot more weight than necessary. The MOLLE and ILBE packs I've seen weighed about 9 pounds empty. Most backpackers have packs weighing 3 to 5 pounds, and the ultralight folks use packs under 2 pounds.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Tent, sleeping bag, food & water, ham radio stuff (not a lot, small items). Cooking kit, not much. I'm not like a "go super nuts on weight" guy, but I'd like to not carry 50lbs around with me. I'd rather have it and not need it than the opposite.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

What I was getting at is that specific gear choices will have a big impact. For example, you will need a much bigger pack to haul an REI Half Dome tent and 20F synthetic sleeping bag than you would need for a Henry Shires Tarptent and a 40F down sleeping bag. My usual suggestion is to take your gear to an outdoor store and spend some time fitting it into packs and trying them on.

That said, if you want something big enough to give you lots of options, I have several friends who swear by the Gregory Palisades pack (which is unfortunately discontinued but easy to find on eBay). And if you really want to go the economical route then I have a potentially unpopular suggestion: a used Kelty external frame. I have one that I still pull out for some multi-day summer trips. They can haul more gear than anyone should be carrying. Bulky items easily strap to the frame below the back.