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[Video] AOC claims Jill Stein is predatory because "her party hasn't grown enough" in Instagram reel. (files.catbox.moe)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by Linkerbaan to c/progressivepolitics

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Oppose Genocide and even the controlled opposition will come after you.

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[–] Linkerbaan -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Stein didn’t run in 2020.

You're right I did not pay much attention to them in 2020, thought she ran back then.

The Greens have gotten more than 1% of the popular vote only twice in its history: 2000 and 2016.

Stein ran in 2016. Not sure what your point is.

Running the same candidate again after losing twice is a sign that the party isn’t serious.

You expect the Greens to go from 0.36% to 51% in a single election? Furthermore you don't even seem to comprehend their role in forcing the Democrats to move left. If Democrats only need to appeal to Republican voters there certainly will never be any appeal for them to implement left-wing policies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You expect the Greens to go from 0.36% to 51% in a single election?

No, I expect the Greens to stay under 0.5% permanently, except in the rare case where both major parties run exceedingly unpopular candidates.

The Green Party candidate underperformed Ralph Nader's independent runs both times he ran without Green Party support, in 2004 and 2008.

If they want to be a serious party, they'll find a way to win elections for smaller offices at the state and local level. They'll find a way to outperform the Libertarian party. And they'll find a way to consistently outperform independent candidates. The Green Party hasn't been able to do any of these things, and I don't expect they'll ever get there.

Furthermore you don’t even seem to comprehend their role in forcing the Democrats to move left.

You serious? Democrats don't think about the Green Party at all. The people who actually do move the Democratic Party left win elections and then influence the party from positions of power within the caucus: Bernie Sanders, AOC, etc.

[–] Linkerbaan -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, I expect the Greens to stay under 0.5% permanently, except in the rare case where both major parties run exceedingly unpopular candidates.

Running two candidates on literal Genocide wow we're really running left

You serious? Democrats don’t think about the Green Party at all. The people who actually do move the Democratic Party left win elections and then influence the party from positions of power within the caucus: Bernie Sanders, AOC, etc.

you mean by endorsing Genocide Joe when even the establishment wanted him out? AOC and Bernie are nothing more than controlled opposition who kneel to the emperor when it is demanded of them. At least John Fetterman is honest about his grift.

If there's one thing Bernie has proven is that you can't change a rotten party from the inside. Leadership will never allow it just look at what Macron is doing in France right now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Running two candidates on literal Genocide wow we're really running left

So you agree that the Green Party hasn't moved the Overton Window, and have been unsuccessful in getting anything done?

I predict the Green Party will get less than 0.5% of the popular vote this year. I predict they will hold zero seats in any state legislature. That's not a position to influence anything, and it'll arguably be going on the wrong direction, underperforming their 2016 performance.

[–] Linkerbaan -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Mate remind me again where Joe Biden is. He was not dropping out right? He is the best candidate!

Democrats talking about knowing politics is astounding. Nobody learns anything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're giving the Green Party credit for Joe Biden dropping out, and not the concerted effort or dozens of Democrat insiders who actually hold elected officer and caucus leadership positions?

[–] Linkerbaan -3 points 3 months ago

No I think AOC and Bernie were championing for Genocide Joe to drop out right. That's how history went right?