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[–] andros_rex 55 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I have fairly severe social anxiety; when I went to France, the negative response to the French I was able to stutter out ensured I’d never try to speak French again. (I read it fairly well, because Candide was good enough to read ten times)

In high school, I had an assignment to go to a local Chinese restaurant and order in Chinese. The response to my “我要broccoli 牛肉” was so enthusiastic that I still do a set of Chinese flash cards everyday.

There has to be a motivating force for you to learn something. Whether that is social approval/encouragement, needing to be able to ask for certain things… Some people can be motivated by an intrinsic love of learning things, but for most I think this is confined to specific topics.

For language, I think you need a show that you want to watch, a space you can navigate by only using that language, something that gives you meaningful feedback and places to go that a grade simply doesn’t.

[–] Maggoty 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Same story here with Spanish. I was in South America for all of two weeks. But the smiles and help when I tried to use Spanish for anything more than beer and bathrooms keeps me going back to Duolingo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I speak Spanish, I have a fairly basic level of fluency but don't live there. People understand me and I can hold conversations but they call me gringo and they are not "nice" or welcoming about it.

I have very little attachments to where I'm from so that was the last straw for me. I don't identify culturally with where I'm from anymore.

[–] Maggoty -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well that sucks, I'm sorry you got the other end of the stick.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It's not something to feel bad about it was just a defining moment at made me understand that despite being born there and living through my childhood it's not my home and these ppl aren't my people

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I had a similar positive experience in Spain and Morocco. Tangier is very close to Spain so most of the locals know Spanish.

I would always start conversations in Spanish. Most of the time the person I was talking to would appreciate my attempt and switch to English. In Tangier I talked to a street peddler for over 15 minutes while friends were in a store. I attempted to speak in Spanish but he preferred English. He just wanted to chat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

ensured I’d never try to speak French again

Probably for the best (context: am Canadian and was forced to learn French, but I didn’t).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, what's up with the French man? So full of themselves

[–] andros_rex 1 points 2 months ago

Teenager I was traveling with couldn’t figure out how to use the turnstiles at the metro. Random French guy, in English: “you disgust me.”

Also got scammed by an Uber. The Louvre was worth it though, we hated Paris so much we spent the entire day inside the museum.