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Appreciate your update and I'm glad to see more people donating.
I've been outspoken on my disinterest and resistance to Threads, but you and your team should not have been harrased like that..
That's wrong regardless, but you guys have clearly been working your asses off to create this space for everyone, and people need to respect that you are doing this on your own free time for the benefit of others.
I feel I've leveled heavy criticism against federating with Threads, but this is something to be addressed with open discussion, not emotional reasoning and vitriol..
I see so many users acting like your team has already announced definitively to federate with Threads and that it's implementation is immediately around the corner. That's just not true.. Instead of jumping to conclusions and throwing threats and tantrums, users should actually voice their concerns if they want them heard... That means arguing points, not threatening or insulting others...
I appreciate everything you guys have done and I'm sorry for how some in our community have acted. With that said, I still desperately hope that Threads is not federated with. But that's a topic that should continue to be fleshed out within the community in a healthy manner.
Thank you. Nothing is decided yet, but because of moderation limitations on Lemmy and the fact people can't block domains for their account, I would say chances are we would defederate as soon as they do federate with Lemmy. For Mastodon these 2 arguments aren't valid so decision might be different.
Totally understandable. I thought the admin response post laid that all out very clearly. I think a lot of users probably only skimmed it/didn't read it, or were too influenced by their emotional state to have a more objective interpretation.
I think a lot of the users here have such strong emotions because of coming here from reddit, and feeling like they've found a new home they like even better, but view the possibility of Threads federation as a threat to their new space.
When there's strong emotions tied to something, it's easy for people to lose rationality and slip into emotional reasoning instead of logical reasoning. That's when a normally well-adjusted person will start insulting, threatening, acting irrationally. That is, if you subscribe to the person-brain model.
The scene in Bad Grampa with the penguin guy is a great example of someone who has lost rationality. He acts in bizarre ways that he otherwise never would have. You can see that he's rational in how he first starts interacting with Knoxville, but his rationality is eroded as he becomes more upset by Knoxville's responses.
This kind of response happens with simple discourse online all the time, and it's so unhealthy... I think it's just such an emotionally charged topic for some users that they pass their threshold for rationality very quickly.
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I think many users of reddit did not have a good opinion of Meta prior to any Reddit migration. And despite the dislike for Reddit now it is still a site where using it you know you are not going to be directly exposed to Meta or in direct partnership with them. At best it's people reuploading Meta content but not direct access to Meta services. And I don't think Meta is forcing Reddit to sign NDAs to talk to them either.
So Reddit for all its criticisms is still a Meta free place. So leaving Reddit then running into the hands of a partnered Meta instance can be an off putting prospect. If people had to choose between using a Meta affiliated instance or reddit I think many would prefer to go back to reddit.
I think people against it want more degrees of separation from Meta where separate accounts are needed to utilize their services. It's not like there isn't over a decade of Meta's track record to look at or even more recent examples like theit app requirements and permissions to use threads that raises red flags and makes people not want to use them even if it is indirectly through a fediverse alternative.