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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'd posit that every person who owns a private jet uses it to move around the world at a moments notice. That is, after all, the thing jets excel at. So now we're getting into what we consider valid reasons to move around the world.

I'd argue that a world tour, sure. You can use a jet for that. I don't think any reasonable person would counter that. How about just a US tour? A city a day? That's pretty doable without a jet. And yet, she uses it for similar occasions.

I don't disagree that Elon and Mr Starbucks and Gates and all the rest should stop using theirs all the time. That's not, and had never been the argument that I've made, or any other person in this thread. They should stop, and so should Swift, where it's possible.

[โ€“] buddascrayon 0 points 3 months ago

Do you run company that specializes in musical tours? Do you know what it takes to successfully manage one?

I'm not saying that private jets aren't incredibly wasteful in terms of their CO2 production and fossil fuel usage. I'm just saying that the motivation for criticizing Taylor Swift is less about how much she uses her private jet and more about how much political influence she might wield in the coming months. I think the arguments against her are bad faith arguments made either by people who simply don't like her for the sake of not liking her or are trying to disarm her influence in whatever way they can. And I find that completely silly. And every "yeah but" argument you make and every person who downvotes me just proves me more and more right.