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The super privacy-focused third-party ROM, GrapheneOS now officially supports the Google Pixel 9, 9 Pro, and 9 Pro XL.

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[–] mholiv 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Who knows. We do know that all of the pixel photo features work assuming you install the pixel photo app and give it NPU permissions.

The exciting bit is that we know you can deny internet access and all the picture AI stuff still works.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Who knows

Presumably the GOS devs. And anyone who owns a P9x.

We do know that all of the pixel photo features work assuming you install the pixel photo app

Yeah, that's why I ask. Some of this stuff works already. The on-device AI in Gboard is incredible. As is the spam detection in GMessages.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The exciting bit is that we know you can deny internet access and all the picture AI stuff still works.

Source? There's no way any of the offline stuff works.

[–] mholiv 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So this says absolutely nothing about on device AI...

[–] mholiv 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It does?

Pixel Camera (previously known as Google Camera) can take full advantage of the available cameras and image processing hardware as it can on the stock OS and does not require GSF or sandboxed Google Play on GrapheneOS. Direct TPU and GXP access by Google apps including Pixel Camera is controlled by a toggle added by GrapheneOS and doesn't provide them with any additional access to data. The toggle exists for attack surface reduction. Every app can use the TPU and GXP via standard APIs including the Android Neural Networks API and Camera2 API regardless.

TPUs and GXP are what enable apps to do on device ais with whatever model they choose to bring.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol. That's the hardware. Of course it has access to the device hardware. You still need software. All of Google's local AI features use Gemini Nano, which absolutely 100% I guarantee you will not ship with GrapheneOS.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're wrong. They already ship with GOS.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Prove it. Show me Gemini Nano in GOS. I'll wait...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I can't show you, there isn't some pop-up that tells you that it's working, it's a background process.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You could show a single advertised feature working...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Open up Gboard. Open up Pixel Camera. Open Google Photos. Open Google Messages. Then you'll see it. I don't have time or motivation to create a screen recording and upload it to show you these.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't run GrapheneOS. Convenient you are all of the sudden too lazy to prove you are right or have a clue about what you are saying.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

You don't need GrapheneOS. I don't need to prove anything to you. If you want the information, you can go and research it yourself. If you want to continue on in ignorance, that's your prerogative also.