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Solarpunk designs should include children and teenagers too (slrpnk.net)

submitted 3 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] grue 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The artist forgot the most important label for the feature that, if missing, renders all the other features moot: streets safe for people (including children) to traverse outside of cars.

It's shown, but it should've been labeled too -- and in bigger text than everything else.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Conversely, I feel like this has become such a common understanding that it doesn't require mention.

There is a really nice playground there that doesn't need a label, because everyone knows what a playground is. There is a fence around the playground so kids don't run into traffic. You don't need to label a fence. Everyone knows what fences are for. There are trees all around. The artist doesn't really need to point out all the ways that trees are beneficial. The sky isn't full of car exhaust, and there are no oil pumps next to homes, schools, and playgrounds (a serious problem in Los Angeles in particular). None of these things need specifically described, because they're basic assumptions in this context.

[–] grue -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Conversely, I feel like this has become such a common understanding that it doesn’t require mention.

Go ride a bike in any typical North American suburb and you'll be disabused of that misconception real quick.

There is a fence around the playground so kids don’t run into traffic.

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So what you're saying is, you really don't get it after all. With a properly-designed city, the playground wouldn't need a fence for that reason in the first place!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

We can have different takes. It's cool.

But I do need to insist on this: no... a fence is actually still really nice to have even without vehicle traffic.

Speaking as a parent and among parents, fenced parks a really nice even in car-free areas. I've been to a lot of playgrounds, many far from roads. Even if the nearby paths are for people and bikes, fences let parents relax and chat and give toddlers more freedom to run without the risk of them wandering too far. They are also a reassurance to people on bikes/scooters/skateboards who are passing by, who get stressed that a toddler might chase a ball or another kid into the path unexpectedly.

If anyone is designing a park, please include a nice little fence (thanks).