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Hello,

I want to learn and understand why Russia is doing this? From what i have read on other sites the laws against allowing LGBT people have only been getting stronger, meanwhile in CPC the society is moving slowly more progressively in some ways on the topic of LGBT, like they don't target them like what is happening in russia.

I'd really like to see this topic and article discussed.

What are other lemmygrad communities for discussing topics like this in the future?

Thank you.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The Russian Federation isn't the USSR. The Federation is a pretty conservative reactionary force that is in no way socialist, as much as the west likes to paint them as such. The CPC is, and while they may be overarching allies on many issues it doesn't mean they are going to see eye-to-eye on everything, especially social issues. It's not surprising that they are very regressive on many social policies. This isn't unique to Russia though, it does seem strange to single them out on it.

I have seen some folks make the mistake of assuming that since we generally don't support the Ukranian side of the ongoing conflict that we must inherently support Russia in all things. That is not the case, and that kind of binary thinking is an artifact of western indoctrination. Understanding that Russia has reasons for the invasion (they do) and that all Russian people are not inhuman monsters (they aren't) isn't the same as uncritical support for them in all things.

Communists should not uncritically support Russia out of some misguided nostalgia for the Soviet Union, nor simply as a contrarian stance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Understanding that Russia has reasons for the invasion (they do) and that all Russian people are not inhuman monsters (they aren’t) isn’t the same as uncritical support for them in all things.

Communists should not uncritically support Russia out of some misguided nostalgia for the Soviet Union, nor simply as a contrarian stance.

Wise words. Apparently the most difficult thing for reactionaries to understand.

Edit: thinking about it, it does make sense that reactionaries can't understand this because it's how they often operate. They give uncritical support to capitalist states, to NATO, to the IMF, World Bank, WTO, government, orgs like the EU, etc. Obviously it's inconsistent. And they may raise some challenges. But it's only to liberal-two-sides the subject matter, to make it seem as if they're being reasonable and balanced. But ultimately they always come down on the side of capital and, at most, chant: 'Mild, sensible reforms!'

So it's uncritical support at all times for the form of liberal states institutions. The only thing they challenge is some surface-level content, but even this is tepid.

They can't comprehend that MLs might conduct a material analysis of e.g. the Ukraine war in order to understand it better, while simultaneously holding their breath in anticipation of the fall of the Russian capitalists – only, at a time when when communists can inherit the country, not the Anglo-European vultures who looted Iraq and everywhere else they entered. Which time isn't now, considering NATO is knocking at the door.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

On the part of singling them out.

I merely heard about russia passing this law and figured, I would start a conversation. I am seeing attacks against LGBT in so many places.