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It sounds way less offensive to those who decry the original terminology's problematic roots but still keeps its meaning intact.

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[–] kameecoding 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

There is stuff that was bad, white/blacklist doesn't make much sense, when the universal "code" for allow/disallow are green and red. Allow and deny list are much better name.

Master main, is fine by me, doesnt make much sense to call it master, its only the main branch nothing else.

Shit that didnt make sense was stuff like removing community episodes from netflix, because or "blackface" without any consideration of why its there or whether it has value, just blanket ban, it was stupid af.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Totally discussing useless stuff here, but green and red to me give the feeling of temporary actions (and possibly alternating). Intuitively sounds more like slowing and speeding than it does permanently blocking or allowing something.

Black and white have the polar opposite meaning. At this point allowlist and blocklist might be a simpler solution to the "problem".

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Blacklist is a word that goes back to the 17th century. The origin had nothing to do with ethnicity, it had to do with whether someone was against the monarchy during the English Revolution.

Seems weird to remove words from existence out of fear that someone (who's probably acting in bad faith) might take a bad meaning from it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I agree, personally.

In general I feel the words are so abstract (blacklist and whitelist) that I can't really see how someone will see some other meaning...

[–] bitwaba 4 points 3 months ago

Main one to me is you can't have a grey area in between without black and white to compare it against.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Probably because those are traditionally traffic light colors, used to indicate success or failure.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Yeah it's a problem with social media, twitter in particular. Nobody wants to put time into understanding any nuance, (and on twitter there's not enough characters to explain the nuance) so it's easier to jump to conclusions and go along with people that have jumped to conclusions because if you don't people will think you're on the "wrong side".