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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Dude I love debating with fascists. You obviously can't let them dictate the terms, but it's a chance for great educational setups that are just weird if you come in from nowhere and start talking about them.

They say Biden caused inflation and everyone's suffering because of him and only him

You say actually that's not true, working class wages have actually been rising (even adjusted for pretty punishing inflation) and that happened specifically because of policies X, Y, Z, and you link to a chart of wage growth over different income levels which some people may not have been aware of

They say how dare you defend Biden when everyone knows he's killing Palestinians on purpose

You say that's a really good point, he did take the biggest action on climate change in history by a margin of almost ten times over

They say wait wait I was talking about Palestinians

You say hey you're right Trump did say he wanted to just kill them all, and Biden (for all his fuckin war criminal weapons shipments) is weirdly enough the most anti-Israeli president (in terms of action) the US has ever had. For as sad a statement as that is. He put sanctions on settlers, he paused weapons shipments, etc etc, people should be aware, I'm glad you brought it up

They say what the fuck are you talking about he never put sanctions on settlers, or he undid them, their eyes already filling with aggrieved "this isn't fair" tears

You link to an editorial from some Israeli minister about how bullshit is Biden's behavior and why his actions against Israel are absolutely criminal and we need to get rid of him. Probably no one reading the exchange will have been aware of that editorial.

And so on

It's a blast