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Stop doing Discord

  • capitalists were not supposed to own your community
  • Years of hanging out yet no real-world use found for sending your private data to be sold to advertisers
  • Wanted to leak private data anyway for a laugh? We had a tool for that; it was called "turning off ublock origin"
  • "Yes please search our chat archive for answers to your question. it will certainly remain up forever and not get deleted when the shareholders realize it's not profitable" statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

Look at what discord admins have been demanding your respect for all this time:

  • task manager screenshot, discord using 97% of CPU
  • discord making too many automated requests and getting throttled
  • crash screenshot

"3rd-party client? lifetime ban"

They have played us for absolute fools

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Does it have voice chat built in and is it as easy to use and accessible as Discord?

Last time I looked this was not the case. No point lecturing people until Matrix or a viable alternative catches up at least.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah it has voice chat, video calls, and screen sharing. I haven't tested any of them yet personally (soon™) but they are stated features. Element in particular is rolling out video rooms right now, still in beta, which operate identically to voice channels in discord from a UX perspective. So all said not too bad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see that it has 8 person voip.. but does it have an actual voice chat like Discord?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Voip is a voice chat, so your question doesn't make much sense. You can voice chat in voice rooms identically to discord, as I said above.

There is no longer an eight person limit on video or voice calls. There is a limit depending on your server.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The best that I could find was that there was an 8 person limit and that it wasn't as straightforward as Discord at all.

It's still nice to see them trying and hopefully one day it'll be a viable alternative to Discord itself.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The best that you could find?

I am personally unconvinced it's not a viable alternative to dsicord already. But yes it will always be improving and it will be good to see how far it continues to improve.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Serious question, can you join multiple homeservers yet? Having an account tied to one server is a massive drawback compared to Discord. I tried Cinny earlier and currently use Element with my friends but I don't think that feature exists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@Umbrias @Jamoke is that even planned for ActivityPub? I think the cross communication is so that you can participate without necessarily making accounts Mastodon, Peertube, Lemmy, Misskey, etc.

If you need main features you'd likely need a account, similar to getting access to post creation and upvote/downvote on Lemmy sites.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes matrix account migration across homeservers is possible, though it looks a little annoying so hopefully you'd never need to do it.

I'm not sure what you mean though about being a downside compared to discord. In discord's case, your homeserver is the discord service. In matrix it could be one of any number of servers. But unlike discord, you can talk to those other home server users. So to be clear: a 'discord server' is more like a room in matrix. While your homeserver is akin to the entire discord service. Literally their servers, as in their server farms.

It would be like talking to someone's steam account or facebook messenger directly via discord. It's actually more versatile in this regard, far moreso. Your discord account is locked to discord's walled garden, a matrix account is not locked to any walled garden.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So if I'm on a self-hosted matrix server I could join rooms in any number of other matrix servers (just like joining communities across Lemmy instances)? That's a game-changer if that's the case. I have no idea how to do that within Element.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes that's the central idea of matrix. Element is just the client interacting with the matrix code, there are likely guides for self hosting Matrix. I don't think it's trivial though, a secure messaging system is a bit heftier than a public facing messaging board, but I am fairly confident people familiar with self hosting could do it.