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Zelenskiy forced to recalibrate to avert Nato summit falling-out (www.theguardian.com)

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[–] Raphael 9 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Significantly, similar language was used by Sullivan, who had been needled by a question from a Ukrainian activist who suggested the US was “afraid of Ukraine winning”.

They want Ukraine to win.

But very slowly.

Very, very slowly.

They want a war of attrition, they want to weaken Russia without the backlash of losing their own soldiers, Ukraine can't win too fast, there can be no peace agreements either.

[–] weavejester 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unlikely; a quicker victory against Russia would be more damaging politically to Putin, and a "weaker" Russia isn't necessarily a less dangerous Russia, as nukes don't need a lot of manpower to operate.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

But a quick war isn't as profitable for the military industrial complex

[–] ikidd 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know about that. The demographic damage being incurred right now, in a country that has virtually no immigration, will massively weaken them in 30 years. The damage the same does to Ukraine is of no consequence to the west, Ukraine doesn't have nukes and a totalitarian government

The eventual economic toll will cause a lot of changes in government

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