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A naked call to free breasts and minds (commonwealthbeacon.org)

submitted 4 months ago by borebore to c/boston

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[–] primrosepathspeedrun 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

but what if I dont want people to stare?

then wear a fucking bra/shirt. that's part of what they're for. I own several! but also, I don't always want to wear them, or care. do you understand what a "choice" is?

what about incidental contact

yeah, topless dudes on the train can be annoying. im sure topless women on the train would be almost as annoying. and don't care! also, have you heard of a "choice"?

undoing oversexualization is hard, so lets just not

shit, okay, you got me. too bad I need to either decide everyone must go topless, or nobody can, and we can't each choose from day to day. oh well.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What is the point of being dismissive of parent's concerns and straight up misrepresenting what they said in the last "quote"?

I'm in favor of making the law gender neutral, and quickly without having answers to all these questions.

Doesn't mean there won't be unintended consequences that aren't worth discussing to get ahead of them.

My gut reaction is if its legal in public does that make it legal in the media? Will publishers and advertisers use this to further objectify women? Even though I'm asking these questions, I'm 100% in favor of gender neutral laws for media and advertisements.

My off the cuff and likely unrealistic solution that has nothing to do with gender is to just ban most forms of advertising out right. This includes never requiring users to make the "choice" to agree to any ads in the terms of services in order to access goods and services (e.g., gas pumps, accessing a bank account, etc.).

[–] primrosepathspeedrun 2 points 4 months ago

I'm actually down with banning ads. not for this, but, like, if that's what gets you on board, I'm so fucking in, let's do this.

[–] yggstyle 4 points 4 months ago

do you understand what a "choice" is?

I do. I've expressed this plenty above. Sometimes expanding on it bothers people with sensitivites. Discussion can do that.

yeah, topless dudes on the train can be annoying. im sure topless women on the train would be almost as annoying. and don't care! also, have you heard of a "choice"?

And that should be the normal way things play out. I assume you are capable of understanding that the ideal is not always the norm.

shit, okay, you got me. I can't deal with opposing opinions so I need to lose my cool and throw a tantrum. oh well.

Noted.