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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Eh, I'm gonna go ahead and keep calling any group with charismatic authoritarian leaders/councils a cult. The word "cult" is inherently tied to worship which involves giving up some of your own agency or, at least, taking things on blind faith or admiration.

Any time you have adherents giving up their free will/agency, that's abuse and manipulation, to me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Cult - charismatic leader is still alive. Religion - charismatic leader is no longer alive. That's how I see it, at least.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I get that. I definitely leave my definition open for transfers of power from an initial leader to another authoritarian leader or surviving council of leaders that will keep the grift going.

Edit: Or for transfers of power from an initial group or figure of a generally helpful movement to those who would co-opt those ideas or movements for their own goals.