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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Do you think there are circumstances where queer people deserve to be tortured? He moved there for work, but your victim blaming would be just as gross even if he did it for fun.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nobody should be tortured for being queer.

With that said, there are some shithole countries where laws are... Well, shit. And we can't change those laws. Going there, work or fun, is a risk that I'd never assume, not for all the money in the world. Money is useless if a shitty government decides you should be executed under the charges of being yourself.

This guy has my sympathy for what happened to him, that shouldn't happen in 2024, but does he really think Qatar would admit in any way to human right violations towards a "gay foreigner"?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Not everyone can afford to not take work. Queer people are more likely to be fired and refused jobs because they're queer, and that frequently means needing to take horrible jobs in horrible places just to survive.

but does he really think

I don't mean this in a snarky way, try waterboarding yourself for 5 seconds and then consider if you would be in any way rational after sustained torture. Torture fucks you up in horrible ways, and I don't think we should be criticizing this man for how he reacted to the injustice he faced.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (51 children)

He's British-Mexican. I am sure he had several choices before Qatar to go get a job. I understand most of us can't afford to not take work, but work shouldn't come at the expense of your life. And in shitholes like Qatar, that is a possibility too plausible to just ignore.

Lastly, I understand that right after torture you're never rational. But he tried to appeal the case, and he's disappointed that they ignored the appeal. I doubt he made these declarations right after the torture. He probably made them days or weeks later, I'd assume he regained his sanity by then.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

There aren't. However, if one country's laws says "we torture lgbt its a crime", why would you move there as a queer, where your existence is considered a crime? Surely there are other job opportunities at other places that don't think that way.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Oh no I wanted to make more money so I volunteered to work at the leopard factory and they ate my face.

Hey maybe don’t move to violent shitholes for work. Don’t support their economy and enable their crimes against humanity. And especially don’t do it for 7 years.

I have as much empathy for him as I would myself if I got hit by a car because I ran onto the highway.

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