Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

Rules

Post only about bans or other sanctions from mod(s).
Provide the cause of the sanction (e.g. the text of the comment).
Provide the reason given by the mods for the sanction.
Don't use private communications to prove your point. We can't verify them and they can be faked easily.
Don't deobfuscate mod names from the modlog with admin powers.
Don't harass mods or brigade comms. Don't word your posts in a way that would trigger such harassment and brigades.
Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
You can post about power trippin' in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.

Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.

Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.

Some acronyms you might see.

PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
CLM - Clueless mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.

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In which [email protected] mod bans me as a "liberal" (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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This one requires a bit of background.:

Hexbears keep opening the_dunk_tank posts about our mods and our instance in violation of their own comm rules. That compels me to go in them and try to correct the bad faith disinformation being peddled about us.

In one such thread one commenter made a reply to me ending it with "disengage", which was a clear indication they didn't want to engage in discussion any more, which I respected.

$Did you read the comments (both mine and of others?) we are just chatting, no salt down here. You think I'm salty, I think I'm not.\nMy post won't be reinstated, but we had a cheap laugh at the expense of your mod and had some sane discussions between ourselves, as far as I'm concerned this is a net win for me. You'll think we are all just a bunch of salty lunatics and that's your opinion.\nThere's no point arguing when both sides have unreconcilable viewpoints, our conversation ends here. Disengage.$

Note that there's no indication of how disengagement works in any sidebars. And even their own Code of Conduct, merely states:

Any discussions may be opted out of by disengaging.

So it appeared to me this is how it works.

Later in the thread, someone kept making bad faith replies and at some point I thought, "I'll just use this handy disengage rule to avoid being further provoked". So I did, at which point I was gleefully and summarily banned by the mod with the following comment, to which I couldn't respond anymore of course.

$user report: Abusing Disengage rule\nA call do disengage must be the only thing in the post. You don't get to respond to people and then call to disengage, this is completely disingenuous.\nI think it's about time we defed from your garbage instance, and I'm glad to make sure you won't be showing you're entire ass around here again.$

Now I knew already that plenty of hexbears had a grudge against me for rejecting "left unity", so they were just looking for an excuse to get rid of me, they finally found enough of a plausible gotcha and all they could think of for the reason was "liberal". Note that the first person "abusing the disengage rule" was never banned or affected in any way.

Ultimately this led me to being banned from hexbear itself, but that's a post for another day.

So what do you think? Am I "liberal "enough to deserve a ban for "abusing" an unwritten disengage rule. Power trippin' mod or nah?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I didn't abuse anything. As my screenshot show, your mod publicly posted and announced she was the one that took the mod action!

I also didn't make this community for this ban (it's been months), but rather it was triggered by the other ban I received which you can also find posted. I just felt this sort of thing also belonged here.

I also noticed you didn't address any of your own mods behaviour even though they're clearly in the wrong. You're more incensed about us shining light on her power tripping than the act itself.

Also I don't follow hexbear norms about "Moderator harassment". I don't consider speaking truth to hierarchical power to be abuse. And yes, that means that people are free to make posts about our own mod actions in his instance. We stand behind everything we do but also acknowledge we can do mistakes like humans.

I've told you before that your own dunk tank members routinely violates it's own rules. You misunderstand if you think I'm upset that you dunk on mods, specifically. I only call out hypocrisy. You can keep telling me that oh eventually you handle the reports of your own member breaking your rules and the aggrieved party jumps through your hoops (if they even can) but if you have a community that considers its own rules as something to ignore when funny, then I would shut it down as unsalvageable.

Likewise it's disgusting to equivocate criticizing mod actions as "bullying marginalized people off the platform". Nothing I said had anything to do with anything other than one's mod status and the fact that someone is marginalized doesn't exclude them for being criticized for hypocrisy.

I won't allow this community to end up like the dunk tank where people do bad faith interpretations in order to pile on. We have very clear rules of what and what form criticism takes and it's also focused on keeping the hierarchical power in check, including mine.

And if I find that the community members routinely bend the rules to the breaking point, and we can't handle it with mod actions , I'll shut it down myself.