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Even for a socialist, this is simply delusional
It's sad how propagandized Amerikkkans can be. Who taught you to hate strangers as deeply as you do? What has the DPRK done to you?
I hope the resources I have available to share can help you start the process of healing.
Best of luck!
I am a BRAZILIAN socialist, but DPRK is a totalitarian dictatorship that isn't truly socialist and have serius problem with starvation and stuff so they aren't really good at all.
The real socialism is the Democratic Socialism.
Source?
Source?
Democratic Socialism is objectively the moderate wing of fascism
SOURCE?
Democratic socialism is nearer to anarcho communism than those far right wingers.
Also you want me to prove I'm Brazilian!? How am I supposed to do that?
The argument in the source, as I understand it, is that democratic socialism doesn't firmly oppose fascism with force, so tacitly allows it to develop.
Naw, I just thought it was funny to write. You're welcome to ignore that.
You still haven't sourced your claims on the DPRK, though.
The most important claim I think he made was that north koreans are starving.
Why are they wasting so much money on their military if they can't feed their population? Who are they even fighting?
Why does Kim's family still get to live a lavish lifestyle?
All these things make it a shitty place to be, regardless of how it's governed.
Source?
They are still at war. The U$ occupies half the peninsula.
Who says he is?
Are you trying to argue that North Koreans aren't starving?
How does the US occupy half the peninsula?
Do you think the Kim family isn't living a lavish lifestyle?
The U$ military occupies South Korea to block reunification.
I'm not going to prove your arguments for you - that's your job.
Or are your arguments based more on a vague cloud of propaganda than on fact?
All you need to do is source your claims.
Ok. Ignore answering the questions that make you uncomfortable.
We all know you're just biased and desperate for an angle to work. That's why you're afraid to answer my simple questions. You know I'm correct.
Either you're a troll or woefully delusional about the world you live in.
Have a nice day.
you don't seem willing to scrub the western propaganda from your brain, but in case you are arguing in good faith and acutally are open to re-educating yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhaHiht50AA
https://leftistcritic.wordpress.com/2018/02/17/the-myth-of-the-kim-dynasty-the-reality-of-democracy-in-juche-korea/--
Ok, sure. "Your sources are better than mine because they support your argument."
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You still haven't sourced the claims you've made.
Calling me a troll won't change the fact that you're refusing to support your own arguments.
Why is that?
That's okay, bud. You're afraid to say North Koreans are starving because you know it's true.
You're afraid to say the Kim family is living a lavish lifestyle, lmao.
But you were so quick to say "the US occupies half of the peninsula."
I'm not playing your 'sources' game because all you're going to do is say anything that isn't "The Pyongyang Times" is biased. You're so transparent it's practically tangible.
The more you say, the more rational people have to write you off as biased and incredible.
Sorry bud, take your propaganda elsewhere. It doesn't work on rational thinkers.
Do you think North Koreans aren't starving?
Yes or no.
So you think it isn't happening?
Why are you so afraid to say yes or no?
Forget about what I claimed.
I'm asking you, personally, if you think North Koreans are starving.
It's a simple yes or no, but you're ashamed of the answer so you don't say it.
You never said it.
Glad you did. Not for me, but for everyone else.
Have a nice day.
Can you please quote where you said North Koreans aren't starving?
All you asked me were for sources.
I don't watch Fox news, so you're wrong about something you think you're "100%" on.
I wonder what else you're sure of but wrong about.
You still didn't quote where you said North Koreans aren't starving.
No, I don't watch Fox news. I don't watch any major news stations. I'm sorry this is too difficult for you to grasp.
P.S. Knowing that North Koreans are starving isn't a republican talking point. Most people in America understand that, regardless of political affiliation.
I'm not playing your sources game because you're just going to say anything that isn't "The Pyongyang Times" is invalid.
You still didn’t quote where you said North Koreans aren’t starving. Were you just lying about that? How come you keep ignoring this?
So, you accused me of not being able to read yet fail to quote the part you said I missed?
Also, what are you going to do about my 'right' to speak? You're not the decider of who gets to say what, lol.
That's only when dealing with rational people, which you clearly are not.
You still haven't quoted the part you said I missed, lol. Why are you so ashamed to say North Koreans aren't starving? You should be saying it loud and proud, but you know it's not true.
Right, you said that already.
How do you feel about people who ignore sources if it doesn't support their agenda? Does the 'burden of proof' work on them?
Or else what?
The Koreans I know don't want "unification" because North Korea is not a country they recognize as "the same" anymore. Maybe 50 yrs ago but that's over a generation ago.
Also they think NK is a shithole.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/pyeongchang-olympics-korea-unification-1.4520151
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2018/01/28/reunification-with-north-korea-unappealing-for-young-south-koreans.html
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NK would be better off if they didn't waste so many resources on their nuclear program and 'important' families.
Blaming sanctions doesn't really make sense when NK clearly isn't trying to solve the problem themselves. They're trying to hold the world hostage.
The nuclear weapons are the only thing stopping the U$ from murdering 20% of their population and razing 80% of their buildings. Again.
The sanctions are meant to torture the civilians. It's siege warfare.
End of active Korean war: 1952
NK food stamp baby rattle, I mean, nuclear testing: 2006
No they aren't. The US isn't invading North Korea because they have no reason to.
It would just be a mindless slaughter with no real gain.
Please read about the Korean War and the US's fascist pursuit against Communist/Socialist countries. The US has specific policies about stamping out Communism, with devastating consequences for those countries.
Please tell me specifically what you think I should know and add sources if you can find them.
Saying "just look it up bro" isn't conducive to discussion and just tells me you're not confident in your argument.
I just watched this documentary by a Korean American where you can find some information about it in the context of Korea. He interviews a South Korean lawyer who specializes in the legal defense on North Koreans, as well as a couple North Korean now living in the south.
You can also watch this video that talks more widely about the red scare and military actions against socialist countries. There are sources in the video description if you are interested.
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The U$ still militarily occupies Korea.
That's not guaranteed. The U$ did not win the Korean war.