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[Dormant] Electric Vehicles

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This is just a rant… maybe a discussion starter

Margins on 2nd hand and new electric cars are thin, gone are the days where you could get 25% off a new car, and thin margins mean lower commission.

Servicing costs are minimal so no kickbacks for selling the servicing plans.

People are wise to paint protection and alloy wheel cover that cost more than a refurb.

EV buyers tend to make better decisions and are more likely to be cash buyers or finance elsewhere, so no kickback for selling a finance plan.

Manufacturers still selling higher margin hybrid and ICE vehicles mean they are the real target for salespeople.

Manufacturers also want to shift their ICE inventories and new products so they are still pushing the FUD on electric, and myths like “EVs will be obsolete once Hydrogen cars come out, you may as well get an ICE car in the meantime.”

I’ve had a really bad customer experiences at Toyota, Honda and now Kia dealerships.

I know people will suggest the Tesla online sales model, but Musk is just ruining the brand to the point where I can’t buy or recommend one.

So now I’m going to do all my own research, find the exact car I want, and contact the dealer/seller directly while avoiding as much interaction as possible.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Follow up comment: Even if they do come out and we're somehow green, dealerships won't sell them either. Oil money speaks pretty loud

[–] ObsidianZed 6 points 4 months ago

Back when I was considering a Ford Lightning, I went to a local Ford dealership and the salesman came out like they do. He asked what I was looking for and I said I just wanted to see the Lightnings.

He literally said "you know we're an oil and gas country, right?"

Even if I was fully planning on buying that day, there's no way I would have bought from that guy.

At one point, he also said something along the lines of "they don't give us any incentive to push these."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

thats not really a question, even though its probably right :D

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I started writing a question, got sidetracked and forgot about it lmao

[–] manualoverride 3 points 4 months ago

Ah well that is one of the reasons why big oil has invested so much in hydrogen, the way hydrogen is made right now is by refining it from natural gas using massive amounts of electricity which oil companies can generate for themselves. This hydrogen is then sold along with the same 0.1% of hydrogen which is electrolysed from water using solar and wind power and greenwashes the remaining 99.9% masking the fact you would have been better off just refining crude oil into diesel, or burning puppies and kittens in a steam engine.