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BYD to shake up North American EV market with plans to enter Canada (electrek.co)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (14 children)

while we do need competition and variety on the market, electronics with Chinese origin raise serious concerns though. given China's present political trajectory it's not too far fetched to assume that vehicles will have remote backdoors that could be used for remote control of a vehicle. So unless those are "dumb" vehicles (which is highly unlikely) this is unlikely to be a good thing in a long run

[–] Oderus 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Apple phones are made in China as are most laptops, servers and pretty much most electronics we use.

I just read that Ford is trying to patent a technology to report speeding directly to the police.

I don't like the Chinese Government but it's not like all North American companies are altruistic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This Ford patent made me wonder. After looking it up, Ford stated that this technology would be for Ford police cars, not regular Ford cars.

UPDATE 7/31/2024 @ 3:30p ET: After publication, Ford reached out with a statement to clarify that the idea “is specific for application in law enforcement vehicles, such as the Ford Police Interceptor, and it’s a system that would automate a capability that law enforcement already have in use today, except this would utilize the built-in system and sensors in the vehicle. This patent does not state that driving data from customers’ vehicles would be shared with law enforcement, which is what some media have incorrectly reported. And note, patent applications are intended to protect new ideas but aren’t necessarily an indication of new business or product plans.”

Source: https://www.thedrive.com/news/ford-researching-tech-that-snitches-on-speeders-to-the-police

[–] Oderus 1 points 3 months ago

Thanks for that. Doesn't sound too bad when they put it this way.

[–] Nogami 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There’s a difference between made by and controlled by though. Apple is not a Chinese company, although the phones are made there, they're not beholden to do what china wants. China can’t say “turn off every iPhone in North America” and have it happen.

With a Chinese owned and operated company that can absolutely happen. If they don’t do what the government wants they or their families are put in jail or killed. “Shut off every car in Canada and the US”!

Click.

You get to walk. Or maybe the order is to overload and blow up the battery packs.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Even the Chinese government is wary of US based manufactures having their cars near sensitive areas because of all the cameras. Tesla had to ensure that all the data was stored in and didn't leave a facility based in China before they allowed the cars to be in those areas.

It's a legit problem for every country. It's possible other countries might require the same.

[–] Nogami 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hun? What are you talking about sensitive areas? Where did that come from?

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The conversation was concerns about what China can do to the cars, but China is also concerned about what other manufactures can do with their cars. The concern goes both ways, it's not just the west afraid of china. The concern about these highly connected cars is legitimate for everyone on both sides.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/tesla-cars-barred-some-china-government-compounds-sources-2021-05-21/

I believe now that Tesla stores the data in China that some of that has been relaxed.

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