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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People like Sinema and Manchin are a feature of Dem politics, not a bug. They are there to slow everything down and take the heat of unpopularity so that the party can drag its feet on all of their promises.

Biden's cabinet split the huge infrastructure bill, ensuring that the parts they wanted would pass and the stuff they promised and didn't care about would tank.

I heard someone say that the means testing of student debt relief gave the GOP extra time to sink it in some way.

The basic playbook is: vote for us or some crazy fucks will be the alternative; we talk a great game, but republicans always find a way to sabotage us when we get there.

[–] rusticus1773@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Then you should just go ahead and vote for the Republicans if your tinfoil hat is on that tight.

[–] sangle_of_flame 1 points 2 years ago

not a fan of seeing criticism of the Democratic party as fundamentally an endorsement of Republicans

like it isn't that black and white; this straight up feels like you're going "oh you think the Democrats aren't doing enough? Well then just go vote for the Republicans you ungrateful shit" which is kind of dangerous???

you're basically backing them regardless of what they do because the opposition is worse , which is not how you should be approaching this

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'll do one better and vote for socialists.

[–] rusticus1773@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I love that for you. While we have a 2 party system a vote for the socialists in this context is a vote for Republicans.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago

And that’s how change never happens. You’re forgetting that republicans were a third party who got off the ground because people cared deeply about abolition. We just need to get people aware of how to get Medicaid for all. Also, your snide tone isn’t useful.

[–] m532@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago