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Is the kbin project completely dead?

the repo has nothing going on

the kbin.social website partly loads with error

did it just evaporate? or what?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That was the message that was pushed out when @[email protected] started the fork, because a lot of people were not particularly fond of the way he did it. We were trash talked a lot in the first months and obviously (and sadly) that kinda stuck on a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I did the fork in the best way I could think of. Including a very detailed Collective Code Construction Contract for contributors: https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/blob/main/C4.md

[–] PlasticExistence 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'll never fully understand why humans are so quick to judge and offer non-constructive criticism on someone else's creative work. It seems like the least knowledge are most often the loudest in this regard.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Communication is difficult, especially over text, and emotions can get strong as there is a lot of work involved. Software developers are not always the greatest diplomats. Well-intended constructive feedback is often read as criticism, and situations escalate. And for whatever reason people love picking sides.

At least Mbin seems like a healthy project now, and since Kbin.social went down for good it's hard to argue a fork wasn't needed. Hopefully Ernest is alive and recovering well - he did us all a huge service by creating Kbin and making it open source.

[–] PlasticExistence 2 points 3 months ago

Agreed. Diplomacy is not a skill that many people practice, and even when they do misunderstandings happen over text too easily.