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I’ll give a different perspective on why I downvoted. Not because there isn’t trash around there, I’ve been around enough to see such phenomena, but because it’s a counterproductive way to approach the problem. I’ve seen countless wealthy people wonder why their money goes to resources for the poor even when they aren’t regularly used, but things won’t improve without such resources. The effectiveness of such resources should obviously matter, but I don’t think of this as the best way or place to ask it.
I’ve heard it far more with respect to drug addicts and resources for addiction. Part of helping people is making sure the resources are there when they need it.
Worst case scenario just be glad the trash cans are there so that no matter where you are in the city you have a place to throw something away that isn’t someone else’s yard.
Understandable, but does a person who lives in that environment have the right to just complaint/vent about it? We don't always have to be productive about the problems in our lives, right? This is kind of what I meant when I said I bet the people downvoting don't live in such environments themselves--you're looking at it from the outside, more concerned with how the OP's comments either help the community or serve a pragmatic function, rather than what said comments are doing for them by posting them. If you know what it's like to live in one of these communities, you empathize with the frustration being expressed.
I dunno. Every viewpoint has some validity to it, and I don't mean to make you feel bad about yours, it's just I worry the downvotes punish the OP for just trying to get something aggravating off their own chest for a moment.
Fair, I read it far more in the tone of the wealthy complaining about the poor than the poor complaining about their home and neighbors. From my initial perspective it comes off not as a view of frustration but of self elevation. We have the right to insult our peers and our homes, but it’s a dick move to insult those we don’t understand and someone else’s home, especially when you hold a lot of privilege over them.
Funnily enough I routinely complain about my neighbors trash habits, but it feels like it would be wrong in some social contract way to vent about it on the internet where those who’ve never lived somewhere where that’s a concern would see. But I think that comes back to having heard how nasty the upper middle class can get about it.
Agreed, and to be fair, I was assuming the opposite about the OP: that they are from one such community. If my assumption is wrong and yours right, I agree it's rather cringey to make such a comment.