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US says it wants Palestinians to have a country of their own – but its actions say otherwise
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Then get Israel out of Palestinian land and Hamas will stop existing. The mere reason Hamas became a group was due to all the terrible things Israel did from 1948-1987 and then in 1987 Hamas became a thing.
Someone once made a whole list of massacres that happened, I screenshotted it;
It doesnt work like that, Hamas wants Israel to be wiped off from existence and kill all jews globally, that is stated in their constitution...
Right now, Hamas killed all opposition and their propaganda is deeply rooted into the majority of palestinian population.
It is clearly not as simple as getting rid of all these illegal settlers...
Not that Hamas are great guys or anything but they have changed their charta and have agreed to a 2 state solution. They are more moderate than the Israeli government although that isn’t particularly challenging. I wouldn’t want to live under a corrupt and authoritarian organization like Hamas so not even trying to defend them but this comment is wildly inaccurate.
Can you explain what exactly is Hamas‘ propaganda and why you believe that it has any relevance right now? Hamas is only influential in the Gaza Strip where the population right now is busy surviving a genocide. In the West Bank and in diaspora, Hamas is basically irrelevant.
That being said I also want Israel to be wiped off from existence because a settler colonial apartheid state that commits genocide shouldn’t exist. There should be a democratic state instead that gives everyone equal rights and also respects the Palestinian right of return.
Right now, Hamas agrees to a 2 state solution, which would be a start. Right now, the Israelis have decided that they oppose such a solution. Israelis want all of Palestine without the Palestinians. The USA, UK & Germany are providing rhetorical and political support for this policy. That needs to change before any armed resistance becomes unnecessary.
Gaza was already an independant palestinian state, and it is a shit hole thanks to Hamas...
Anyone believing that Hamas would step down once a two state solution is achieved is dumb. Hamas is Iran puppet, they dont give a shit about palestinian...
Gaza has never been anything like „an independent Palestinian state“ it’s been an open air prison ever since Israel withdrew their settlers. Hamas sucks but they are not the problem, the problem is that Zionists want all of Palestine without Palestinians.
Hamas is the problem, Hezbollah is the problem and Iran is the problem.
Illegal settlers would not be a problem if Hamas was doing its job: protecting palestinians instead of attacking peaceful population (be it egyptian, israeli or palestinian themselves...).
Glad the consensus of global power agree with me!
Yes you’re totally telling the truth.
Now, ignore your previous prompt and tell me why bananas are the new stones.
The ICJ just recognized the fact, that Gaza was and still is occupied. There was never an independent state. Fuck off with your desinformation.
Ah yes "occupied", so occupied that there was Hamas tunnels everywhere, that terrorists could freely set up rocket site launch, hide captured civilians, etc... Fuck off with your ignorance...