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Hello, some people have told me that it is possible to see lemmy posts from mastodon. To me it makes a lot of sense to have a single app for whole fediverse. However, mastodon is not doing a good job at this.

Each time I look at my mastodon home feed, it is spammed with completely random posts from lemmy which do not even show up in the organised view wefwef/memmy provide. Is there any way how to take care of this?

For lemmy I have found wefwef and memmy to be actually quite good. Interface is simple and easy to use, posts look organised. On mastodon it just feels far worse, especially with lemmy connected.

Are there any alternatives to the official mastodon app that would allow better integration with lemmy? To me it seems logical to have a single app for both platforms as they use the same principle.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It kinda does. But the problem is the microblogs people post to the groups on kbin drown it out.

I followed elonjet on my instance. If I click on the main kbin page then microblog (NOT from a group, since it will filter only microblogs to the group) and scroll I will find the elonjet updates along with all the other stuff people probably mistakenly posted by clicking + and then add post instead of add thread (probably because reddit called them posts).

So it does work correctly. If you filter out all the microblogs that were probably posted by mistake.

Oh and you can get directly to only the specific content by clicking your name in top right, profile, followed and choosing the followed user. You'll see all their posts there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks!!

As mentioned by @[email protected] above, the microblog section, while it will contain posts by people you follow, seems to essentially be a global or federated feed of everything that goes through the instance ... so it's not just the microblogs posted to groups drowning things out then ... ?

How would you filter out all of the microblogs posted by mistake? If the microblog section is like a global feed, how could you filter out everything but those you follow?

I don't want to be too critical of kbin here, especially as it's young platform with a bright future, but it shouldn't be too hard to explain how to get a feed of the people you follow ... right? Unless it's just not possible? In which case, people should really stop saying that kbin is lemmy + mastodon. From the perspective of writing posts to both platforms, it seems to fit the bill nicely, especially with the nice hashtag->magazine feature. But for reading a feed, it appears to not have the mastodon side covered at all.

Is this on the roadmap (I would guess so)?

IMO, there is a tad too much "hype" or "overselling" happening on the fediverse. Excitement is good, obviously. But I've seen a bit too much factually incorrect statements about what is possible with a specific platform, which, IMO, only do harm by either leading someone to disappointment or feeling like a platform is too hard to use because they can't work out how to do something that isn't actually possible. I certainly felt that way about kbin and getting a feed of those I follow and dismissed it as having a bad UI, now I realise that I was under a false impression.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could make a report here suggesting an enhancement.

But what comes into the feed is anything posted on kbin as a microblog (potentially by mistake) or, from mastadon where they tagged a community subscribed to.

It isn't normal threads to groups that end up there.

Just looking at the current feed on my instance (you can see yourself, you don't need to login https://kbin.life/microblog) the first item is from a mastadon user that tagged the [email protected] group. Hence why it shows up there since the instance takes content from there.

The next 2 items are clearly people on kbin.social that mistakenly (well maybe deliberately, but I suspect not) create a post, not a thread in the [email protected] group.

You can tell which is which, the mastadon users are deliberately using hashtags and tagging groups with @. The others are making a very reddit style post that is turning up in the wrong place because they chose post, not thread.

But I think it'd be a nice option to just show followed people and not groups. Maybe a three way toggle. People, Groups, All.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks! It's an interesting point you make about the user mistakes. Names are annoyingly important huh!

I'm on kbin.social, and the microblog page there just now seems to show posts from mastodon accounts that aren't using hashtags or tagging a community: https://kbin.social/microblog

For example: https://kbin.social/m/random/p/792477/Did-Twitter-remove-the-buttons-to-open-a-web-page

Scrolling down and this seems to be quite common on kbin.social .... ?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

OK then I can see what's happening and there needs to be filtering added (and not just by magazine as it allows now).

I think it's putting into random microblog posts by anyone that any user followed. In fact, you can confirm it easily by scrolling down on my one while not logged in. I mentioned I only followed elonjet. And sure enough there's some posts by elonjet a bit further down, but otherwise it's just mastadon users tagging groups or kbin users making a mistake.