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When you sit there and call center leaning people Nazis it pushes the entire spectrum right. If you can't see how screaming at everyone for moderate views pushes them out of your camp then maybe look closer at where the person you are calling a Nazi ends up feeling about your views after the fact.
It's like watching the US bomb terrorism away.
And I'm mad at everything? You've just called me a Nazi for having centrist views. You can't see any way that's going to escalate and accelerate everyone hating each other?
Internet activists really have lost all shreds of empathy.
Well, when one side says gays deserve to be erradicated and one side says let everyone be themselves centrists say both sides have merit when they clearly dont.
Centrists uphold fascism by defending terrible ideals.
The right wants to kill people and centrists say "wait a second, this guys got a point."
Find me a centrist who actually believes what you said. You have cast millions as a single dimensional group. THIS is the problem.
An average person in the middle could support queer rights, could support pulling money from Israel until an agreement for both pieces of shit states (actually believing only the people get fucked) chill the fuck out, and they could support a national gun laws on basic registration and education but not stupid shit like bump stock bans, and maybe theyd ike to tax billionaires but don't believe that them renting out a second home on airbnb should be illegal.
You've taken a decent person, and turned them into a Nazi supporting asshole.
And when you grow up, you see this shit, more constantly every day, it creates radicalism. Both side have grown up with constant memes, jokes, and a culture of dehumanization of the other side. And no both sides are not the same, the GOP are monsters and every party member deserves whatever they get in whatever hell they believe in.
But you, and what this meme is doing, is squeezing a long balloon from the center. It's not helpful, it creates a further divide, and creates voter apathy.
It's not helpful and our little monkey brains will piece by piece contribute to the demise of democracy, as flawed and fucked up as GW and those fuckers set up for us, because we can't empathize beyond a computer screen.
I'm done multi paragraph ranting over a meme. I've said my peace. This isn't helpful.
This comment supports the notion of a larger symptom: false dichotomies boosted by a flawed FPTP electoral system. Because opinions vary, it's highly possible, as demonstrated by your argument, to have pluralistic views. But due to the effective nature of the two-party system it forces hands into two camps. In alternative systems it would allow this person with their rental properties to hold their social values and the nuance of their economic requirements (symptom of the economic system) without alienation. That's not the current reality, so I understand it's simply not where we're at. But ultimately if the social pressures "make them feel bad" so that they choose "to become a Nazi" then that still says more about their personal belief systems, suceptibility to bullying, and unwillingness to affect change. Ultimately, choosing a polticial system that persecutes immutable characteristics of individuals because those that would be victims of said persecution (or those sympathetic to their plight) are impolitely defensive is akin to, "I'm not on fire, so why are all the people for whom the fire encroaches upon screaming at me? It is mean and makes me uncomfortable and feel bad. Let them burn."
I agree with fptp sucking ass, but the rest to me seems to imply an inevitable call to violence. I don't think it has to be a dichotomy with some common ground and realizing that the Internet has amplified the political effects.