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France is banning the sale of fireworks on its biggest national holiday after protesters used them as weapons against police (www.businessinsider.com)

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The ban is in effect through Bastille Day in order to prevent "serious disturbances" to public order, the French government announced Sunday.

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[–] MasterObee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If your neighbour, having been born in an extremelly wealthy family, hired 100 hunters and hunted all deers in a 100 mile radius and offered to sell you venison, and you subsequently went hunting, got 0 and had to buy the venison from him, that would absolutelly be his fault.

His fault of what? Hunting more? I don't own the deer, nor the land the deer are on. In fact, it'd probably work better for me, he doesn't have use for all the deer, and I can buy it pretty cheap from him without getting my hands dirty. Isn't that what you do? All your stuff, do you make it? Or buy it from someone who provides it?

As it so happens my version of the metaphor is very much how it works nowadays at that level of wealth compared to the normal individual.

Not really. You didn't explain why it's my neighbors responsibility to give me food.

It’s funny that in your mind they work just like you, even down to doing it hands on: that’s not even close to how it happens with the vast majority of them and even the ones who do “work” used their wealth as a force multiplier to make way more happen than you could ever possibly do and thus get way more benefits than you could possible get (normallly make way more money which they can use as an even bigger force muliplier in the next round).

Yeah. Once you have your needs met and have expendable income you can use that how you see fit. Some use it for luxuries, some use it to make more money.

I'm not gonna be mad at how someone uses their property. That doesn't do anybody any good.

Nobody would have any problem with the rich if their taking wasn’t so vast that it stops everybody else from getting even a little bit.

Yes, you and many other young left wing folks would. It stems from jealousy, not necessity. The world is a much much much better place due to capitalism, which has brought insane amounts of people out of poverty, into positions they don't have to worry about starving everyday.

You're just mad because your wealth hasn't increased as much as theirs. Your life is easier than 90% of people throughout world history, your on your little Mac or Iphone, in your air conditioned home because it's a little too hot this july, drinking your starbucks coffee, stewing in hatred about how rich people are awful, but anybody in human history will look at your life of luxury and be appalled how someone with so much comfort and wealth is complaining.

[–] Aceticon 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Considering my age and that I've actually worked in Investment Banking, your take on me is hilarious.

Let me explain it in a really, really, REALLY, simple way:

Those with enough power to alter the environment in which you live and force you to live differently ARE responsible if they choose to do so, and applies just as much to those whose power comes from being in Government as those whose power comes from the Money and Properties they inherited from Mommy and Daddy.

It's ideological blindness to a level only found in cults to not apply the same rules of responsability to those whose power comes from money as to those whose power has a different source: Power is Power and using one's position of having way much more Power that most other people to limit the choices and even force choices on those other people is, for those who think people should as much as possible be Free, equally wrong, no matter what the source of that Power is.