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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of the combustion products from gas are 'clean' - water and CO2. They don't contribute to particulate air pollution.

CO and NOx are output in much smaller quantities, and are contributors to air pollution, but not to particulate air pollution.

From the tailpipe, the only real particulate matter is a very small amount of soot, and this is a small fraction of the overall combusted mass - engines are designed to minimize soot in order to increase performance and fuel efficiency.

Tires and break pads, in contrast, simply abrade into the air essentially in their entirety.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of the combustion products from gas are ‘clean’ - water and CO2. They don’t contribute to particulate air pollution.

Yea totally, that's why I suggested the rewrite that I did. It seems a bit nuts to exclude CO2 from the phrase:

In California, sources other than tailpipes are the dominating source of traffic emissions"

... when CO2 emissions are like ending life on earth as we know it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A lot of things are ending life on earth as we know it. CO2 emissions are just one of them. It's like the stupid argument that plastic bags are fine because a hundred plastic bags emit less CO2 than one cotton one... But plastic bags aren't even close to being a significant element of CO2 emissions. It's a waste problem.

In this case, it's saying that particulate pollution won't magically get better by switching to EVs. The research shows that that's true.