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I've recently been trying to degoogle myself, and in doing so I'm going to need another email. I tried ProtonMail, but apparently only business accounts can use SMTP, even though their features claim SMTP access. I'm plenty fine paying for the service, but going from the $6/month to $12/month just to get notification emails from my server doesn't seem worth it to me. I've not looked into what all else comes with Proton's Business features, but i'm not really running a business or trying to start one up.

What do you use? do you like it? How's the cost/features?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I was under the impression Proton Bridge was available for any paid subscription. I've had a Visionary plan for years, so I can't say for certain since I get a lot of perks as a result.

The bridge is a bit tetchy, sometimes it works, sometimes it don't, and can never really say why. You also need to have the bridge app installed on the machine you're using it on (eg won't work on mobile or any unsupported platform). The tl;dr for this is if you need to rely on SMTP / IMAP ProtonMail isn't ideal.

I do actually have Proton Bridge running on my Yunohost machine, the CLI version was annoying to set up but that is the only install I haven't had too much issue with (yet). The thing to be aware with that Proton is super anal about the email address you're sending from, if it isn't an alias (or a hosted domain) on the account it isn't going to have any of that.

In terms of self-hosting though, I have a Wildduck install running. The software isn't really production ready, but for a personal home server does the job super well. You can also get it to auto-encrypt incoming emails with PGP (similar to Proton) and it saves emails you send via SMTP to your Sent item folder automatically.

My advice for self-hosting though, is use a SMTP Smarthost from a professional provider (I've always used Duocircle and Spamhero), Google and Microsoft make self-hosting a nightmare even if you are fully compliant, but these operators give you a better chance of getting through.

Because I'm lazy, I also use MXGuardDog to filter incoming email, I rack up free credits by placing a link on my website so I've never once paid for the service in cold hard cash. But realistically you could skip this part.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Proton has stopped the "visionary" that allows SMTP, now it's only available in business accounts. :( I tried setting up the bridge CLI, but so far haven't been able to get it to send anything after logging in and syncing the account, Maybe I'll try again once I've got some things off my plate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's really weird "Proton Mail Bridge is currently available for paid subscribers. Upgrade your account" and on the pricing page it has "Email client support (via IMAP/SMTP)" starting on the Mail Plus plan.

Although I've got the same problem with Bridge on MacOS it just stopped doing anything for no particular reason, it'll be worth contacting support to find out why (they're still working on mine)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I just got their email, I get it now. SMTP is different to Bridge, but in my case I use Bridge to send SMTP from my apps (and also collect via IMAP) on the servers. It took a bit of creativity to get it to work like that

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