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what is Everyone's opinion on the Flair Press? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by Fizyo to c/coffee

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I've been eyeing this machine for a while since my goal is to really control my press just like I have with the Aero Press. Still haven't decided if this is a worthwhile investment.

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[–] eramseth 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you mean "quick" as in "how much effort to figure out how to make a good shot" then I definitely agree.

If by "quick" you mean "how long from zero to espresso" I actually disagree. You can be pulling a shot in 8-10minutes with a flair. Most traditional (boiler, pump, push-button) espresso makers are still warming up in that time frame.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, a flair or a robot is way quicker than a powered espresso machine.

I've been trying to optimise my workflow using a stopwatch and doing as much in parallel as possible. The key is to have water boiling and beans grinding simultaneously, and then milk heating and espresso extraction simultaneously.

I can make a flat white and be all cleaned up and packed away withing 4mins.

Process:

add water to kettle and start boiling
add beans to grinder and start grinding
get robot off shelf and put into position with scale
put milk into French press and in the microwave with time set to 1min (but not yet started)
grinding has now finished. WDT and tamp.
kettle has now boiled, press start on microwave
water into portafilter and press (~30sec)
empty and clean portafilter
remove milk from microwave, froth, pour.
put away robot, clean french press.
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[–] eramseth 2 points 1 year ago

That's pretty wild.

I got a bellman steamer for milk. Usually only do lattes when I'm quaking from home or on weekends because it takes a while.

[–] Don_Beefy 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah, I was mostly referring to the effort you put into each cup. Some people prefer less of a workflow per cup. I agree with you on the first shot, but if I'm making more than 2 shots I notice myself wishing I had a more traditional machine. I still have not invested in getting a second portafilter and brewchamber, so I lose a lot of time resetting between shots.

[–] eramseth 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I've been using a traditional espresso machine at work and it also has a lot of steps.

Esp with the 58 removing variables of a standard style portafilter and heated brew chamber, I prefer the workflow of the 58. The only extra step is pouring water into the brewing chamber.

By the time you buy a second portafilter and brew chamber you'll be out almost as much as a 58.