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What are your thoughts on this? "How did Mozilla Firefox go from being the best and most beloved browser to suddenly the worst company and browser according to Reddit" (reddit.com)

submitted 4 months ago by TheTwelveYearOld to c/firefox

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Seriously, every post I read that's upvoted is smack talking Mozilla in every way possible and it just so happens to take place exactly when Google quietly announces Manifest V3. Mozilla is not our enemy, Google is. Don't let all these bot upvoted comments and posts let you forget that. Has Mozilla made some questionable moves lately? Yeah.. the biggest being the purchase of Anonym. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-anonym-raising-the-bar-for-privacy-preserving-digital-advertising/

We'll just have to wait and see how that turns out. But I found it amusing when I saw this post and it got so many upvotes immediately after Mozilla announced the purchase. https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/1dkujuh/mozilla_anonym_is_a_datahoovering_monster/

Then Mozilla allegedly fired someone because he has cancer. https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/mozilla-is-trying-to-push-me-out-because-i-have-cancer-cpo-says-in-bombshell-lawsuit/ar-BB1oOjOZ

Then I was reading Mozilla android browser is suddenly the worst and least secure android browser.

It's never ending.. Honestly I think I am just going to take some time away from Reddit because it's becoming such a corporate shill and bot upvoted cesspool. I'm sure this will get heavily down-voted but I just wanted to give my two cents. Mozilla will always be my preferred choice for privacy and security and unless I see some actual changes within the browsers no one will ever convince me otherwise.

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[–] reddig33 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I think they could be right. For gods sake Firefox bought an ad company. And their latest and greatest features are “me too” AI garbage and “vertical tabs”. Whoop de do — browsers did vertical tabs in the 90s and it flopped.

Google and Edge are worse, but that doesn’t make what’s happening to Firefox any better.

What ever happened to mean and lean browser code that concentrated on rendering a website as quickly and accurately as possible?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

browsers did vertical tabs in the 90s and it flopped

There are extensions for that. Which are worse than they used to be because they didn't provide APIs enabling to do that properly, about 10 fucking years after they dropped the old APIs. There are a lot of other feature requests from back then open, often even filed years before they went through with dropping the old APIs. The best way of doing custom keyboard shortcuts in Firefox is still injecting Javascript into each page, with all the shortcomings this has. Usability of Firefox is way worse nowadays than what it was 10 years ago - and I do understand (and agree) with the decision to dump the legacy APIs, but you can't just break functionality lots of people use, and not provide APIs in over a decade to fix that.

I'm trying other browsers now and then, but every single one is a dumpster fire. At least the Firefox dumpster fire is a bit less out of control - but that's the most positive thing I can say about it nowadays.