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Opinion | Hillary Clinton: I’ve Debated Trump and Biden. Here’s What I’m Watching For. (www.nytimes.com)
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[–] Coffee_Addict 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

A couple paragraphs I found interesting. Emphasis is mine:

[Hillary Clinton writes] I am the only person to have debated both men (Mr. Trump in 2016 and, in the 2008 Democratic presidential primary race, Senator Biden). I know the excruciating pressure of walking onto that stage and that it is nearly impossible to focus on substance when Mr. Trump is involved. In our three debates in 2016, he unleashed a blizzard of interruptions, insults and lies that overwhelmed the moderators and did a disservice to the voters who tuned in to learn about our visions for the country — including a record 84 million viewers for our first debate.

It is a waste of time to try to refute Mr. Trump’s arguments like in a normal debate. It’s nearly impossible to identify what his arguments even are. He starts with nonsense and then digresses into blather. This has gotten only worse in the years since we debated. I was not surprised that after a recent meeting, several chief executives said that Mr. Trump, as one journalist described it, “could not keep a straight thought” and was “all over the map.” Yet expectations for him are so low that if he doesn’t literally light himself on fire on Thursday evening, some will say he was downright presidential.

Pretty much sums up the double standard with Trump.

[–] AlternatePersonMan 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As much as Hillary screwed us, she's right. The moderators and the system were an absolute disgrace. At a minimum they need to mute anyone when it isn't their turn. Otherwise there is no point.

[–] Ledivin 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

At a minimum they need to mute anyone when it isn't their turn.

It's in the debate rules that they already agreed to, which is why everyone is expecting a cancelation from Trump.

[–] AlternatePersonMan 2 points 5 months ago

Did not know that. That's fantastic. If only we could always put a timer on that idiot's rambling.

[–] sylver_dragon 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ya. When I read that the Trump campaign agreed to that, I was absolutely shocked. Either Trump is going to run away or he's counting on screaming loud enough to be picked up by Biden's mic. Or, maybe he's just so high on his own shit that he really believes he won't come off as a poo flinging orangutan.

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