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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 week ago (6 children)

What I described is exactly how it played out in about a dozen instances where a transition to communism was tried

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Has it? Has it truly?

Your argument can be made against all forms of social services, and ignores that people work to get paid. This hasn't panned out in your game theory favor at all.

If you're trying to argue against higher stage Communism, "from each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs," then that also doesn't follow. Higher stage Communism has never been achieved by any AES country, so again, your example is false.

In no reading of your statement does it follow reality.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago (4 children)

How about instead of just saying that I am wrong, describe to me how an individual in a higher stage communist state would be prevented from slacking in his duties (and still gaining "according to his need") without state induced violence

[–] hitwright 1 points 1 week ago

I don't really think it can placed as a comparative argument, because under capitalism it's more or less the exact same. Either you work or starve/jail.

For a more wholehearted answer. Under each ideology there is a perfect citizen for each of them. Any one ideology will fail in real life. Providing a rouge actor doesn't disprove the ideology. Almost each country implements some aspect of each ideology in order to run smoothly.

Problem arises when a lot of people under capitalism feels left out, because only ruthless capitalism is rewarded. They try to find their communities online and now we are here. I'm almost certain that people here could create a functioning communist state. But you can't create one, when people who are born in one are already part of it.

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