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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago (5 children)

If we're assuming that humanity will go extinct, then sure there's no point to stonehenge. But then there's also no point to a protest either.

If we're assuming humanity isn't going extinct, then there is a point to preserving stonehenge and there's also a point to having these protests.

Seems like there's a logic fail happening here where there's no point to preserving stone henge for the future but there is still a point to a protest about preserving things for the future.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah but protesting has a lot better odds at improving that future than Stonehenge I'd argud

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

There's zero chance that protesting Stonehenge will improve the future, they're just rocks.

Protesting an oil refinery might have better odds tho.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Zero change is pretty damn impressive confidence intervals, and oil refineries are much easier to cover things up/rewrite the story at

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Even easier to rewrite history when someone is attacking something like Stonehenge. "Just a bunch of idiots that don't really care about the problem, they're just trying to get attention for themselves." And is that all that far from the truth? IT is 100% about getting attention the only thing that's debatable is whether it's attention for the cause or attention for themselves.

The problem isn't that people don't know global warming exists, the problem is they don't care. Sure, being an asshole gets you attention, but it doesn't influence anyone to help with a cause. So whatever their intent, these kinds of actions are just selfish attention seeking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

So you want them to break into a secure facility and probably get federal charges instead of some rocks?

Cause these rocks are special rocks to you?

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