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As the Elden Ring DLC beats the snot out of players, Hidetaka Miyazaki says toning difficulty down would "break the game itself" (www.windowscentral.com)
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[–] Gradually_Adjusting 39 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (9 children)

The game is not "difficult" per se, it's just that the underlying systems of how to make it easier aren't made explicit. You're meant to engage with it and learn how to create the advantages you need. It's supposed to be a process of learning and growth that feels rewarding and earned. Or read a guide.

It's honestly one of the easiest From games, once you engage with the particulars. Let me be clear: This isn't an elaborate "git gud". That began as an ironically bad opinion that inevitably became a genuine opinion held by fools.

Engage with the systems and dynamics presented to you, and you begin to see that the difficulty setting in ER (and other Souls games) exists on a conceptual level.

The exception that proves the rule here is Sekiro, which was an amazingly interesting experiment in putting you into a character's shoes through game mechanics - the only way to beat the game is to adopt the bold and precise combat style of the main character. The difficulty of that game comes from hesitation, fear, and carelessness - and it is painfully unforgiving.

[–] tomalley8342 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

It's honestly one of the easiest From games, once you engage with the particulars.

I see this being said from time to time and I thought it was just me not "Gitting Gud", so after being filtered by Captain Niall even with my mimic summon, I went through and cleared Demon's Souls, Dark Souls 1 and 3, Bloodborne, and Sekiro all for the first time, and they were a fucking breeze compared to Elden Ring. I used a strength scaled zweihander in the Demon/Souls games to have the closest comparison possible (and also because I think it looks good). I guess it depends on which weapons you enjoy using, but the fact that there's such a big skill discrepancy between entire weapon categories is in itself a pretty big stain on Elden Ring's claim to be an RPG.

edit: I shouldn't say they were all a breeze. Bloodborne and Sekiro were difficult for sure. Not even close to comparable to my experience with Elden Ring though.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's pretty interesting. I fully agree that builds differ a lot in terms of how much they depend on player skill in these games, and I can see how that's not necessarily a good thing - but it is rather to my point that it's part of the "difficulty settings" that I'm arguing are intrinsic to the game mechanics. You're meant to choose your own difficulty setting in this way, and I think it was a deliberate choice to make it so, and not a failure to balance everything to equality.

I still haven't beaten BB or Sekiro, but DS 1+3 were pretty doable. I admit I haven't gotten through all of ER yet, though from my experiences so far I feel that's mainly due to work and parenting being such a drag on my mental energy.

I used to power through these games in a very slow, mistake-prone fashion. I've never been what you'd call "gud" at these games, which is pretty much my point - but it's only a matter of troubleshooting the difficulty on my own terms (if I ever have free time and no burnout at the same time again, wish me luck on that).

[–] tomalley8342 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah, after thinking it through, I can see where my confusion came from. Elden Ring might be significantly easier or significantly harder than the other Souls games depending on how you played the other Souls games.

I guess I wish that they had provided more scaling variety within the various build types instead of across them.

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