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More than 300 Egyptians die from heat during Hajj pilgrimage in Saudi Arabia, diplomats say (www.cbsnews.com)

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[–] UmeU -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If they'd died in the Saudi heat to a secular activity - at an F1 race event or inside a poorly A/C'd movie theater or trapped on an overheated bus - would that have been better?

What a ridiculous statement. No it wouldn’t be better, but when was the last time you heard of nearly a thousand people dying at an F1 race event, or inside a movie theatre due to lack of AC? If that were happening multiple times per year we would shut down F1 /movie theaters in a heartbeat.

Fact is that the Hajj claims thousands of lives every year, all in the name of religion.

Which is a shame, because the Hajj as a cultural event was originally intended as this class-agnostic unifying practice social event. You aren't supposed to visit these holy sites encapsulated into these exclusive expensive little bubbles. You're intended to mingle with people from the rest of the world and revel in a certain shared experience common to the faith the world over.

Yea as long as you aren’t a woman.

Don’t be surprised that people are using religion to grift the gullible and exploit the poor - that’s what religion is best at.

The Saudi government has an ethical responsibility to mitigate the risks. It’s not like this was some freak accident. This was entirely predictable and this will defiantly continue to happen until protections are put into place.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

when was the last time you heard of nearly a thousand people dying at an F1 race event, or inside a movie theatre due to lack of AC?

The Qatar World Cup killed a minimum of 400-500 project workers during construction.

If that were happening multiple times per year we would shut down F1 /movie theaters in a heartbeat

I wish that were true. But we've got a history of being extremely callous with athletes and spectators alike.

The Saudi government has an ethical responsibility to mitigate the risks.

I couldn't agree more. Shane they're cheap ass fucks

[–] UmeU -1 points 5 months ago

It’s ironic that you cite a country where the government and ruling family are linked inextricably to Islam, but I digress.

I wish that were true. But we've got a history of being extremely callous with athletes and spectators alike.

Name any other ongoing event that kills thousands of people every single year like clockwork.

Not trying to argue or anything… I just think that Islam is a foolish religion in the same way that Muslims might think that Mormonism is a foolish religion.

Mormonism is stupid, but if they had an event that killed thousands of people from Utah every year I would like to think that at least OSHA would step in or something.