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[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago (13 children)

yeah im not sure how I feel on this. I have known folks who will drive their ice car around and around a block to access free parking. I want more cars parked and not running than running. Especially if self driving cars become a true thing. If its cheaper folks will totally have their cars drive back home and then a few hours later drive to pick them up and double their energy usage and exhaust.

[–] Fried_out_Kombi 9 points 3 months ago (12 children)

The problem is tons of free parking everywhere needlessly sprawls out our cities, makes people drive further, and makes actual green methods of transit (like walking, cycling, and electrified public transit) less viable.

In the long term, maintaining car dependency is fundamentally incompatible with addressing the climate crisis. Removing mandatory parking minimums is a necessary step towards ending car dependency.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (11 children)

I mean the common podium design with a garage at the bottom works well and the space is not desirable in condo design. Larger high rises are the same as higher is more sought. Your not really losing housing as the parking is cheaper than fully done residentail for the square feet and taking much less square feet overall. I know a 3 over one that gives two spaces so a 6 over one should be able to do one easy enough and since lower sizes should be able to get the same out of even four flats as it just needs one additional story.

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's nothing stopping people from building them.

There's just no longer something forcing people to build them.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

thats a good point but again to go back to my original point people will do stupid things to deal with a no parking situation.

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

For no parking? Short term they do stupid shit (like a large event). Long term they just get rid of cars.

Ground and semi-recessed also makes a fantastic space for retail, which makes more money than parking. Digging subterranean JUST to add parking only adds costs, you don't have to keep digging (or if you do, you can solid fill instead of putting in parking garages).

Again, nothing stopping people from putting them in, but don't think it's free space or inexpensive to do.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean I highly disagree because I have seen some stupid and I don't know anyone who wanted to have a car who has not found a way to have one. Short term they might do without but I found folks who give up cars were willing to do it regardless of circumstances.

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick 2 points 3 months ago

It's not something to agree or disagree with, traffic evaporation exists and cities which remove, charge for our increase charges on parking see reduced traffic volumes.

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