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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/1874605

A 17-year-old from Nebraska and her mother are facing criminal charges including performing an illegal abortion and concealing a dead body after police obtained the pair’s private chat history from Facebook, court documents published by Motherboard show.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why do you think a life created by sexual assault is less valuable than a life created otherwise? Isn’t the resulting life the same?

Thinking this through might help you understand the tradeoffs behind most abortions. Pregnancy is dangerous, childbirth is dangerous, parenting is incredibly difficult.

A child could push a family into poverty and devastate siblings’ futures. How do you evaluate the harm caused by that against the harm caused by being forced to carry a child produced by sexual assault?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

A child could push a family into poverty and devastate siblings’ futures.

A child can also be put up for adoption btw.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which often means shoving them into massively underfunded institutions, that are full of corruption and abuse, making it a less than ideal alternative.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Less ideal than being dead?

[–] Gabu 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you care so much, go ahead and adopt a child.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah I'm ok. If she wanted an abortion she should have gotten one in the 20 weeks where she's legally allowed to. Doesn't seem like a hard thing to do.

[–] Gabu 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But you seem oh so worried about the children. What's stopping you?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know this is a stupid argument, right? I'm not looking to adopt a kid. Many, many, many people are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's easy to force a woman to act as a living incubator when you're not impacted by it.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is not less valuable but the way it was created was against the individual rights of the mother.

I agree abortion laws are about trade-offs as I showed in my example and that's why abortion shouldn't be legal in the cases I stated. Abortion shouldn't be legal for anyone cause, if it was in a consensual relationship, the mother assumed the risk of pregnancy.

The only lives that are less valuable are those which deliberately risk or take way the others' lives.

Also, thanks for being respectful.

[–] Gabu 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only lives that are less valuable are those which deliberately risk or take way the others’ lives.

By choosing to be alive, you're impacting all present and future generations, causing the deaths of potentially billions of humans and countless other animals. Do you see how your attempted distinction doesn't actually exist?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess you don't know much about numbers.

[–] Gabu 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow, great argument. Superb insight.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

"Billions must die."