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Thanks for the answer. Although, I still don't really get it.
I've heard that the kink community has a rule that people shouldn't expose their fetishes to non-consenting strangers. Why on pride parades then? Isn't engaging in these sort of activities here kind of wrong, like how you can't just go out nude or have sex in public?
It really depends on where you are and what sort of Pride event it is. If it's a Pride march with lots of corporate sponsors, then you'll see very little kink, maybe someone in full rubber, but probably no jockstraps. If it's a ticketed gay village party, or a circuit party, you'll definitely see some more risque kink gear being worn. If you're at Folsom or in Berlin, there's whole parades dedicated to kink, but even the straight public know about that, so if they don't like it, they can avoid the area during those events.
And how do you feel about the marches or rather individuals in these marches that go to far? To be clear I'm not talking about the people who wear rubber suits.
Define too far.
Let me also ask you what you think about nude bike rides, where dozens, if not hundreds, of people cycle nude through a city. Is that too much for you?
I'm not OP, but just wanted to say, I perceive any nudity in public too far. Maybe it's cultural.
Having their genitalia out is too far. Butts and tits are not genitalia. What else is going too far is burning down a fucking Park.
Nope, that can easily be exempt as a form of artistic expression and doesn't fit into the type of actions I'm referring to. If you've seen the images it's very clearly artistic expression no different from the body paint artists that are also in Seattle.
What has a fire in a park got to do with what we're discussing?
Nudity at Pride is rare, can happen, but it's not exclusive to Pride. And also something that I think attitudes should change on. Nudity is not something that people should fear, nor should they be shamed if they are happy being nude.
Doesn't nudity reinforce lookism, and gives disadvantage to the people with invisible bodily defects? Let alone that some people do not want to see nudes.
The fire was started by individuals from a LGBTQ+ pride/racial injustice protest. I attended this march myself as well, it was primarily a racial injustice protest but a lot of individuals were wearing & celebrating pride stuff as well. The end result was many deciding to continue the protest at rec park, where then it was burned to the ground by unknown individuals. My question is entirely centered around individuals that go to far during these types of events, be it indecent exposure/genital nudity, or what law enforcement consider crimes in general, that's what I've been trying to get across but certain people are seemingly misinterpreting my question on purpose and dodging the question so they can insert their own bullshit argument that has nothing to do with the question at hand & putting words in my mouth I never said. The fire example is mearly mechanism to try to drive home this primary point rather than conducive to the specific topic. The entire point of the question is to draw out your personal logical reasoning and nuance of how you perceive these specific individuals, to induce a level of reflection, to allow deepening of understanding of your stance and further push the discussion into a level of interpersonal discourse. As It's a complex issue that requires careful consideration on a deeper case-by-case analysis & is important to discuss how such cases effect the causes pushing for social change and how theses causes can deal with them respective of the law and the rights of others, while still finding ways to make their voices heard and push for progress.
Thank you for actually answering the question instead of strawman-ing like a certain someone else. I can agree to a degree. Is there a degree of nudity that you'd draw the line at? Are there cases of, say artistic expression that you'd say would get an exemption to that line?
P.s. I'm not the one who down voted your reply, I appreciate your reply as you are the only one who actually put thought into answering the question.