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I'll believe it when I can buy it.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Don't buy it. I can't believe the ongoing hype around electric cars. Just another layer of pollution on top. Drive less. Create walkable cities. Where is c/fuckcars btw?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I mean, it's a smaller layer of pollution but I, too, would rather have mass transit and walkable cities

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, there are scenarios where cars are the right choice - goods delivery, countryside with low density and small towns,.... In that case, battery-powered electric cars could be the best option

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think this is where the right policies can mitigate the problem, build more rails transport infrastructure. Most countries that are heavily reliant on trucks and cars to transport their goods are usually ones where the government were and still are beholden to automobile or oil lobby groups.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bullshit. Would public transport be better? Yeah. Are governments going to build public transport systems to get rid of cars in the next few years? Absolutely not.

Electric cars aren't "just another layer of pollution on top." They objectively pollute much less. They don't come without a CO2 footprint, but it's literally the next best thing to do to somehow reduce the carbon emissions while people are arguing over how to reduce traffic. Traffic is "just" about our quality of life but greenhouse gases are about the survival of humanity and arguing we shouldn't reduce emissions of the latter because that doesn't improve the former is like arguing that we shouldn't try to stop bleeding out because that doesn't also clean up the mess we made after shooting our leg.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every time we change an old, working or repairable product for something newly produced we add a new layer of pollution, no matter what the infinite growth marketing crew wants you to believe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I know. But older, broken cars are replaced. What is your suggestion for these? Why should any new cars that replace old ones still be running on fossil fuels? I'm not arguing that we should wreck all existing cars immediately, I'm arguing that those who are produced and bought anyway should be battery electric.