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[–] bitwaba 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Great. Again though, that's about as useful as saying you have faith that the number 1 exists.

The question of whether it's the mass that causes the force, or the force that causes the mass, or even if is a force in the first place are all open questions. It can be modeled as a force tied to the proportionality of the masses involved and their distance separated. It can also be modeled as a warping of spacetime, where objects moving closer to each other over time is just the result of of objects moving in straight lines through a curved spacetime. Whether it's a force or not is a question of if it can be modeled to have a force carrying particle as part of the standard model, just like we have the photon for the electromagnetic force, the W and Z bosons for the weak force, and the gluon for the strong force.

If you have faith in any of those interpretations, it means you're ignoring observational evidence supporting any other interpretations, which is just bad science.

[–] Jiggle_Physics 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] bitwaba 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Then that's not faith.

Its okay. You can say that.

You can also say "well my definition of faith isn't the same as what everyone else's definition of faith is, and my definition of faith allows me not be faithful to my previous faith and change my faith beliefs whenever I choose". That's fine. Just don't expect everyone else to have the same definition.

[–] Jiggle_Physics 1 points 5 months ago

People change faith all the time. In fact if you type into google "does faith change" the first several things I get are papers discussing that faith does change and why, including the introduction of new information on a subject. So you are wrong.