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Do you think people would be okay with 'Recall' if Apple did it? (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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With the recent WWDC apple made some bold claims about privacy when it comes to so called Apple Intelligence. This makes me wonder if they did something to what Microsoft did with Recall feature, would people be less concerned and to an extend praise their effort?

Do you trust apple with their claims?

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

Apple's PR is better. With Microsoft all news titles were like "OMG Windows will take screenshots of all you do and send it to AI", and with Apple it's more like "Apple is carefully adding AI to their products, respecting user privacy as they always have been".

Of course, when one looks into technical details they would find that MS Recall is strictly local and runs only on special hardware that people don't even have yet.

Apple Intelligence does send your data to cloud and scans everything you have in Apple ecosystem, not just screenshots. Of course they say it's done in very privacy respecting ways, and provide a lot of technical information to back this claim. But at the end it's closed source and is subject to change at any time.

Having said that, Apple users are used to and value that Apple magically takes care of everything, so they are happy to pay premium for Apple's products whatever the company does.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

As far as we know, apple's system does not take screenshots automatically, storing them unencrypted, likely revealing secrets to other programs.

[–] jose1324 -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Recall doesn't either.. it's encrypted with Windows Hello Auth

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

But once a process is running its trivial to get weeks of extremely detailed history and lots of secrets you thought were ephemeral

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