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Enshittification

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What is enshittification?

The phenomenon of online platforms gradually degrading the quality of their services, often by promoting advertisements and sponsored content, in order to increase profits. (Cory Doctorow, 2022, extracted from Wikitionary) source

The lifecycle of Big Internet

We discuss how predatory big tech platforms live and die by luring people in and then decaying for profit.

Embrace, extend and extinguish

We also discuss how naturally open technologies like the Fediverse can be susceptible to corporate takeovers, rugpulls and subsequent enshittification.

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[–] PeggyLouBaldwin 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

you can make money off-platform from your content. you don't need to be paid by youtube.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Idealistic view based on a miniscule amount of very talented/devoted people.

[–] PeggyLouBaldwin 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

if you can't find someone willing to pay you to make content, maybe your content isn't worth getting paid for.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

But youtube pays you even if the content isn't worth getting paid for, so I don't think your reasoning works.

"Go somewhere where there's no viewers and you don't get paid".

Nice advice, I'll pass.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Listen, I don’t think we would lose anything of value if YouTube suddenly stopped paying creators because of either end of the platform or change in business strategy.

People who made valuable videos would still make them and the rest was always just cheap lowest grade entertainment, fun but like no one will notice if it is gone and forget in 2 days it ever existed.

Even Netflix would not be a huge loss let alone YouTube clips. Truth is Netflix tv series are nowhere near artistic and cultural value of movies like Peter Jackson lotr etc.. it’s just another form of cognitive McDonald.

If whole McDonald went bankrupt overnight we would be ‘oh well shame let’s go to McBurger’ and forget it ever existed in few days. If an extremely good and cozy local restaurant closed down we would mourn it for months. I even mourn loss of quality in such restaurants a year after opening which is unfortunately common… it’s so sad to order your favourite state of the art food and realize it is a far cry from the perfection of the original dish. It’s lost, forever possibly. It’s like suddenly someone erased Beethoven from existence.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I disagree with your opinion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Well enjoy your shitty lowest yt entertainment then that does nothing to advance you as a person. Only TikTok is lower.

Lemmy isn’t like very higher up but at least it is an independent pirate community. Also I fully expect some interesting people with interesting ideas will and do come up here once in a blue moon besides all the news angry comments and memes.

I am not also saying that yt is ‘bad’ thing to enjoy but that TikTokers and YouTubers are easily replaceable and represent no intristic value besides few niche ones that do it mostly for free or on alternative platforms anyway.

Of course there is also a matter of participation in contemporary ‘culture’ to fit better and not sound like total nerd and for social leverage. Being seen as one of the herd same as others is very, very important in society. Likeability stat needs to be high to thrive. Ability of others to relate to you easily.

So some TikTok, YouTube is unavoidable from pragmatic viewpoint and we can learn to enjoy it if we have to be familiar with it anyway.

It can be a part of balanced diet but cannot make up the majority of your total consumption time or you will deteriorate to some regressive digital monkey. We need to consume higher, more nutritious forms of entertainment from time to time so our brains can stave off dementia.

My grandma used to read a lot but her eyesight worsened and she started to only watch tv. It went pretty fast afterwards. It’s unhygienic to your brain to consume TikTok in big quantities.

The most nutritious and highest form of entertainment is creation. Coding, music, images, handicraft. As nourishing for brain as it is for the soul.

The lowest well probably jerking off pure chemical supply or maybe even lower drugs like meth that wouldn’t be even inherently bad if not the unavoidable addiction. YouTube and TikTok are still somewhere higher but honestly they are also habit and addiction forming which sucks the time out of your life for something that is pure dopamine nourishment and does not enrich you as a person.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

Lmao, are you fucking high... Is this a copypasta or are you just a basement-dwelling weirdo?

[–] PeggyLouBaldwin 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

youtube pays you even if the content isn’t worth getting paid for

if alphabet's shareholders heard this, they would take them to court. it can't be true. and if they're willing to pay, someone else will be, too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

and if they're willing to pay, someone else will be, too.

You're saying this as a matter of fact. But it's not how it works in real life, otherwise people would have already migrated.

[–] PeggyLouBaldwin 1 points 6 months ago

they pay you because they get paid by advertisers. cut them out of the middle and go directly to the companies running ads on your vids.