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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

They will try to pressure or force you into inputting your PIN.

The other risk is that they will observe your PIN because you aren’t using biometrics.

Nuke/Pave or have a decoy phone (with your primary phone powered down and packed in your luggage) for use when travelling.

And if you are travelling to certain jurisdictions, just leave your primary phone at home!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I wonder what their reaction would be if you are running Graphene OS and you gave them the duress PIN.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They will try to pressure or force you into inputting your PIN.

They can force my biometrics out of me, but not a password. When I travel for work, I don't have the option of taking another phone with me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't know if you read the article but if you refuse to unlock the phone they will seize the device and can hold it indefinitely.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I read the article. If they want to keep my phone, fine. I'll claim it as lost or stolen on my travel insurance, and restore from backup. Either way, I value my privacy more than I value my phone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

and restore from backup.

If you're going to do this anyway, why not wipe it? I don't understand why you'd surrender your phone as is to the AFP if you value your privacy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

As I said in the reply you originally replied to, I need it when I travel for work. Border Force aren't taking phones on the way out, but on the way in. And them taking my phone is not guaranteed to happen, whereas the inconvenience of me wiping my phone is.

The real question is why it matters to you so much what I do with my phone? Nice try Border Force...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And them taking my phone is not guaranteed to happen

It's not guaranteed to happen to anyone. That's the entire point here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ummm, right? That's my point..?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So you claim to care about your privacy but will take absolutely no preventative measures to protect your privacy? You'll just freely hand over your phone complete with all your data, and just pray that the authorities (who are already heavily twisting and/or breaking the law here) don't falsely concoct a warrant that compels you to unlock the phone? It's very amusing that you are so paranoid about my questioning but place complete faith in the AFP.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

My phone's data is encrypted. I use alphanumeric passwords. They can't compel me to give them shit, at least not anything that's only in my head. What's so hard to understand about that?

I'm not at all paranoid about your questioning. I'm just wondering why it's so important to you that I agree with your point of view.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

What is my point of view?