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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I remember seeing a lot of people expand their horizons on all kinds of topics when the internet first started catching on.

Now I think it was because they were actively looking for understanding something new, and did not represent the general population.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Now I think it was because they were actively looking for understanding something new, and did not represent the general population.

Assuming that intelligence (and I don't mean IQ or any other psychometric "proxy" for intelligence, but intelligence as an abstract trait) is normally distributed like most other traits, 50% of people are going to be dumber than average because in normal distributions the mean is the median. The "general population" is not smart by any definition.

And anyone trying to claim that intelligence as a concept is completely socially constructed and that there is no difference in intelligence between people, or tries to conflate IQ etc psychometric measures and intelligence, can shove it up their ass.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wasn't even commenting on IQ, just the general population's interest in even trying to understand new things.

A lot of otherwise smart people I know just can't get past the indoctrination of bigotry from their youth that is reinforced by conservative media.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oh I know you weren't, it was just a disclaimer because a lot of people seem to think that any references to intelligence specifically mean IQ and go into frankly incredibly tedious tirades on IQ's faults

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

50% of people are going to be dumber than average because in normal distributions the mean is the median. The "general population" is not smart by any definition.

What if "smart" begins at the 35th percentile, rather than the 50th? What if "gifted" is anything above the 50th percentile?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What if “smart” begins at the 35th percentile, rather than the 50th?

I didn't mean that the 50th is where "smart" begins, just that 50% are going to be below average in intelligence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

intelligence as an abstract trait

I read something about this two days ago, it's called "g factor" or something. And yes, it follows a normal distribution.

Apparently, it's very similar in animals than it is in humans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

The g factor is actually a psychometric construct to an extent, and its distribution isn't known but it's generally thought that it's probably normally distributed. Basically the g factor just summarizes how results on a bunch of different cognitive tasks tend to correlate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

i think its more about deliberate disinformation than about it being just a subset of people.

i remember everyone was in awe that they could just type out a question and get the best information we had