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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] Zehzin 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

:Not OP:

I think our brain is more complex than just if a particular area lights up in a scan but to call it all bullshit at the same level of phrenology is just ignoring the hard work of really smart people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I agree. Unfortunately, I keep seeing people trying to argue that people are never born in a particular way, which is just such an ableist way of viewing the world. Like, how can anyone argue that someone's psychology isn't genetically influenced? Do they think everyone with congenital cognitive disabilities is just pretending?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sure genetics exist but let's not pretend that we can predict someone's behavior with it. All you have is correlations.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You can, infact, use certain facts about someone's genome to inform predictions about their behavior. If you mean to say that you can't perfectly predict someone's behavior, then of course you can't; I don't recall ever meeting someone who argued otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have yet to see evidence of brain activity predicting a lack of "empathy"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

predicting

Empathy isn't a behavior, it's a basic cognitive function.

I have yet to see evidence of

Have you taken any psychology or neurology classes? I have. It's not my field of specialty, but I got As in each where applicable. If you're going to hold such a strong opinion on this, you should at least put in the effort to do some basic research, or better yet, get some education on the subject.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I too, followed university courses on this topic, gatekeeping pretentious smug. And no, I don't have the burden of proof, mr "do your own research"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The way you've argued thus far has made me believe you are likely young and ignorant. In this thread, you keep making statements that fail to address previous points. You replied to a statement about my position I made to a different user. I was talking about the role of genetics in psychology, and you brought up making predictions about behavior (which no one had mentioned) and then when I addressed your previous point hoping it might lead somewhere you started talking about empathy instead. How was I supposed to interpret that?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for killing my remaining faith in humanity, insufferable freak

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Cat scans aren't used for measuring brain activity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

There's something in rhetoric that we call the principal of charity. When arguing with someone, we try to figure out what was meant based on what was said, and arguing against our best guess at what someone's best argument is instead of assuming that everyone always means what they say and never makes a mistake in communication.

It is possible that the person you replied to does not understand the difference between Cat, Pet, and fMRI. This is in fact a very easy mistake to make for anyone who doesn't work in medicine. So reconsider their comment with that in mind. If we substitute CT scan for fMRI, does that change your response?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Alright, same question as before: why do you believe that?